[kj] Official Site

[Karen Weil]

Hey, I'm a Methodist -- and we're too boring to offend anyone! ; ) 

k.w.
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  From: Rob's Arse 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site


  But the act of confession does not cover all of christianity.

  I always thought that catholicism is a cop out. Do a bit of muderin', buggery - in fact, let's do both. 'Fess up. Few hail Mary's and you're OK.

  Whereas some the Methodists/Wesleyans are "had a wank???" rot in hell for eternity.

  I prefer to be judges by my fellow men rather than someone in a frock. Actually, that's a lie. I shall be hanging round after teh HEaven gig...


  Can't win can ya?



  www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

  --- gregslawson at msn.com wrote:

  From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
  To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
  Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site
  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:11:32 -0400

  No, I think you still don't get the differences idea. Just like I distinguished b/w the JW's (according to what Stephen said) and the Catholic approach to confession, there are huge differneces in what people who call themselves Communists believe and want to do. Also, you're example of a druggie is a poor one--I was referring to people who go to confession and confess w/no intention of trying to change their behavior. Most people who voluntarily go to rehab at least have the intention of trying to quit... 
   

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  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:54:35 -0400
  From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

  Greg, seriously... You really must try and "THINK" (I know it might be a foreign concept to you) before
  you write something. I've already covered your "differences" answer in both Emails. It's really a bad tactic
  to accuse someone of not being able to discern something when they state it quite clearly. If all communists
  think and argue like you, well.....

  Re: Your issue with confession, So when a druggie/alcoholic goes to rehab and tries to do better, falls back down, goes
  to rehab again, falls back down... ad infinitum.... Do you tell him "stop going to rehab"?

  Re: Peter West, if you really really really wish me to be Peter West, well I guess anything is possible.
  (Sorta like Communism being the one true answer!)



  At 10:44 AM 4/1/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

    Well, just to back you up a bit Stephen, I've heard some good things about the dude Jesus, like that he was in some ways the 1st communist. (I've also heard about a book that postulates that he was a combination of several real people rather than just 1, but that may not be the main issue). One thing that always confused me about Catholicism (and I know you're religion is quite different--yes, I can distinguish differences, unlike PETER WEST) was that people seem to confess sins each week and then go out and commit the same ones again--I think that is one thing that has turned off many (former) Catholics. Maybe the JW's have a better handle on the sin issue!
     

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    From: stephen.l at live.com
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:26:18 +0000
    Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

    i have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to have an intelligent and informed debate on here because users choose to just pick parts of a conversation to use for misquoting and misinformation to further thier own selfish agenda which usually results in petty sniping andcharacter assassination
     

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    From: vassifer at earthlink.net
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:17:43 -0400
    Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site



    I'm with Jel on this one. While I respect other people's faiths, I don't care much for fervent Christian proselytizing (after fourteen years of Catholic education, I've had quite enough of that, thanks!)

    Alex in NYC



    On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:07 AM, jerry bodkin wrote:


    none of us will get back what is in this world as it is going to be destroyed to make way for jehovah's kingdom '' man has stumbled around like a demented child king long enough'' 



    You can leave me out of this, i much prefer stumbling around like a demented child king thank you.



    "Too much need to believe-Madness"



    Jehovah dont wanna move into my neighbourhood, he would'nt be welcome!



    Now prepare for the rain of fire!



    Jelly



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    From: stephen.l at live.com

    To: gathering at misera.net

    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:54:04 +0000

    Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site


    hhhmmm brendan your arguement is flawed in that it shows you have not studied the bible or you would know what i mean about bible wisdom even down to the wisdom about doing things in moderation whethrer it be eating or exercising..have a go at the book proverbs ..and then see how you feel ..i am not familiar with nietzsche andregarding the killing joke lyric that also shows jaz's ignorance of bible teaching as none of us will get back what is in this world as it is going to be destroyed to make way for jehovah's kingdom '' man has stumbled around like a demented child king long enough'' ..recognise that quote ?...although i believe i have a good command of the english language i either have forgotten or in fact don't know what an oxymoron is ....christendom is definitly NOT what christianity is all about but in fact man's own perverted version of it just as jesus said would happen when he left but jehovah in his patience and wisdom has given mankind time to turn back to him but know's man's sinful nature will prevent him ...so he will establish HIS kingdom to save mankind from itself 



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    From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

    To: gathering at misera.net

    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:15:40 +1100

    Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site


    No, actually, that’s not what Christianity is all about at all, and ‘Bible Wisdom’ is an oxymoron.




    As Nietzsche pointed out, it’s all about taking the centre of gravity out of the here and now and putting it into some myth of Heaven and Hell.




    SAY YOU’LL GET IT ALL BACK GET IT ALL BACK GET IT ALL BACK.




    Recognise the quote?




    PS: Christianity perverts sexuality more than homosexuality. The Pope is against effective birth control for starving AIDS-ridden Africans. And the catholic church (amongst others) is under assault from all the cases of priests’ kiddie fiddling. You couldn’t find an organisation where it was more institutionalised. 


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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

    Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2009 11:59

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    not grim jo realistic as in biblical wisdom of live for today for you never know what tomorrow may bring 



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    From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk

    To: gathering at misera.net

    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:41:54 +0100

    Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

    Oh you grim bugger.  My eyes! >: reading your post.

    This Summer is going to be gorgeous - I've sown my heart with my seeds.




    if you are genuinely talking about the weather ..i'd say this unnaturally warm for this time of year is a lull before the storm which may or may not herald a heatwave or a washout of a summer like last year with a pleasant autumn as consolation prize 



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    From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk

    To: gathering at misera.net

    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:18:33 +0100

    Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

      S'ok sweet pea.

      We're in for a lovely Spring; don't you think?  :-))




        thanks for that jo your support in the past has not gone unnoticed



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        From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk

        To: gathering at misera.net

        Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:06:49 +0100

        Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

      I can roll with that SL.

      Fools that fuck only for fun.





        what utter bollocks brendan ..it's stupid statements like that that enforces stereotyping of women and men and teaches a distorted view of sex which is not just for recreation but the procreation of life ..it makes both men and women feel inadequate and enforces false body image in other words porn perverts the act of making love and destoys relationships




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