[kj] OT: Question for the Righties

[Alexander Smith]

Serious question for the Neo-cons/McCain-supporters/Skeptics here:

What *exactly* is so wrong with Obama? Why do you vilify him for a  
perceived lack of substance? How is he any less genuine than his  
opponents?

Do tell. I'm all ears.

Alex in NYC



On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Karen Weil wrote:


> That's right, Ex: And John McCain and his running mate have neither.

>

> Ciao.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: The Exorcist

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:54 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ IN NYC 2008

>

> Eloquence without substance is worse. :) (IMHO)

>

> With the other at least you know what yer getting.

>

> At 02:47 PM 9/8/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>> BTW: Exorcist: After 8 years of an immensely inarticulate, dull- 

>> witted president, I think a little "eloquence" wouldn't hurt.

>>

>> k.w.

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: The Exorcist

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 6:42 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ IN NYC 2008

>>

>> Though I might have a preference for certain songs it'll be a blast  

>> to see KJ again.

>> (For only the second time in my life.)

>>

>> Seeing KJ and meeting old/new gatherers is something I am looking  

>> forward to and

>> getting the tickets just for that is worth it.

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Me

>>

>> At 08:01 PM 9/5/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>> Think you're spot-on with your observations.

>>>

>>>

>>> k.w.

>>> The States

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: Christof hamille

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:37 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ IN NYC 2008

>>> I have to be honest the prospects of them performing this or that  

>>> albumin its entirety does not thrill me at all.

>>> 1. They typically play a lot of stuff off s/t and a good number of  

>>> wtf anyway.  And while I like Pandemonium playing the entire album  

>>> again (they practically did for the tour) isn't necessary.  If you  

>>> want I'd rather hear Democracy.  never heard any of it live.

>>> 2. There are plenty of great albums that get ignored all  

>>> together.  Extremities.  People.  How long have we been bitching  

>>> about not hearing any of it.  And while I didn't care, much, for  

>>> Hosannas I would like to hear the live translation of 2 songs  

>>> (TOPS).

>>> 3. Couldn't/shouldn't they play proper homage to Raven?  Yeah I  

>>> know this tour exists because of him.  And yeah you'll probably  

>>> hear Love Like Blood and maybe Kings and Queens or Eighties.  But  

>>> really.  Lets pay proper respect and play something other then the  

>>> obvious hits.  Paul played plenty of Youth tracks that weren't hits.

>>> 4.  Killing Joke, in my opinion, were never one of those bands  

>>> that had to rely on 2-3 records to sustain their career.  Maybe I  

>>> am too big of a fan.  But If I had to give someone a single KJ  

>>> album to give them an idea of how they sound I couldn't.  Bands  

>>> are doing this type of thing all the time.  Sometimes it is to  

>>> celebrate an album anniversary.  Sometimes it is to remind the  

>>> public of how they became famous.  Or sometimes the album, by  

>>> itself, is a defining moment (ala Sgt Peppers).  roger Waters did  

>>> it with the Wall.  Cheap Trick did it with the first 3 lps.   

>>> Melvins with Houdini.  etc etc etc.

>>> The one advantage that I see of this rather lax schedule is that  

>>> Jaz shouldn't have an issue of his "voice".  I never read that  

>>> Geordies fingers hurt

>>> ;)

>>> Chris

>>> > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:14:34 -0500

>>> > From: unspeakable at sbcglobal.net

>>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] KJ IN NYC 2008

>>> >

>>> > >>who else is planning on catching the Joke's show in NYC in  

>>> October???

>>> > Show of hands, please.

>>> >

>>> > *raises hand*

>>> > *raises wife's hand, which fights the second night*

>>> >

>>> > Any bets from anyone on:

>>> > -If the whole tour will happen as scheduled?

>>> > -If they will stick to the stated idea of KJ80 & WTF on night 1,

>>> > Pandemonium on night 2? Somehow I see that changing. Looking  

>>> forward to

>>> > the early gig reports.

>>> >

>>> > If L.A.'s House of Blues gets nervous about ticket sales,  

>>> someone should

>>> > explain to them: "Killing Joke fans are just waiting to make  

>>> sure the

>>> > band show up first."

>>> >

>>> > Alexander Smith wrote:

>>> > >

>>> > > Ahoy Gang.....

>>> > >

>>> > > Sorry to be so in and out of the proceedings these days. There  

>>> have

>>> > > been lots of silly conversations I've wanted to hijack of  

>>> late, but

>>> > > I'm running around like a madman. In any case, I just wanted  

>>> to get a

>>> > > rough idea. I know Mik & Milinda are in, but who else is  

>>> planning on

>>> > > catching the Joke's show in NYC in October??? Show of hands,  

>>> please.

>>> > >

>>> > > Alex iN NYC

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> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is  

> someone

> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers  

> contribute

> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is  

> unethical, while

> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the  

> spirit of diversity,

> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical  

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