[kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?

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Mon Sep 8 19:45:00 EDT 2008



Karen: of course I'm not going to think about it. :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:51
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?


Bravo, Oliver:?
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Great response. You said it better than I ever could have. Just hope jpwhkj reads it and thinks about it.?
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k.w.?
----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>?
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>?
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:02 PM?
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds??
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> WAYYYY different circumstances and a way different political climate.?

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> Again, this just reflects the lingering, weird old residue of Cold War > thinking that says Putin is basically Brezhnez, or something, and whatever > Russia does now is done in the name of Communist Imperialism. The > reflexively anti-Russian conservative base in the USA seems to > masochistically WANT to think that Russia is motivated by old Cold War > imperatives. That they might actually be protecting ethnic Russians a mere > 100 miles outside their own borders seems to be off the table, an absurd > idea. It's as if the old Cold War USSR had landed troops inside England in > the 1960s. That's way different than defending Ossetians from a Georgian > offensive.?

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> It's amazing otherwise sensible people can't comprehend this, especially > when they have no opinion (it seems) on Poland agreeing to host US > missiles in their borders right beside Russia's border. Imagine Russia > made a deal with Canada to host missiles beside Michigan? The hue and cry > would be ceaseless in the US media. But Russia protecting ethnic Russian > folks 100 miles outside their own border? What bullies they are!! How > imperialistic! They must be castigated!?

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> Give me a break.?

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> -Oliver?

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> jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:?

>> Presumably you think JFK's "ich bin ein Berliner" was also stupid??

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>> -----Original Message-----?

>> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>?

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>> Sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:20?

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds??

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>> McCain's comment was one of the most stupid things I've ever heard >> uttered by a pol. And that's saying something. No, McCain -- I'm an >> AMERICAN, thank you very much. K.W.?

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