[kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?

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It's not often that American politicians identify themselves / their electorate with foreigners (for whatever reason).? So I was interested to see if your reaction was negative with both McCain and JFK.

Jamie







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Actually, yes.

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Because what he actually said was, "I am a jelly donut." Please don't throw any JFK at me. I'm not an admirer.

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k.w.


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Presumably you think JFK's "ich bin ein Berliner" was also stupid?


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McCain's comment was one of the most stupid things I've ever heard uttered by a pol. And that's saying something.?
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No, McCain -- I'm an AMERICAN, thank you very much.?
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K.W.?
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> And here is yet another one, a piece in the Washington Post written in > response to John McCain's preposterous statement that "We are all > Georgians."?

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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/14/AR2008081401360.html?

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> Some people consider the Washington Post to have a liberal bias.?

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> SO: That is one 1) article from an avowed conservative that says, wait a > minute, the Georgians are the ones that fucked up; one 2) from Gary > Brecher, author of _The War Nerd_, who claims he is a classical American > conservative (not a Bush-style neo-con); and 3) a liberal paper. Three > different ideological backgrounds, all claiming rightly that Georgia > instigated this conflict, and really fucked up in invading Ossetia, half > of which is attached like a set of testicles beneath Russian and into > Georgia's borders, and the upper half of which is in Russia, but all of > whom consider themselves to be ethnic Russians, not Georgians.?

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> States generally have a mandate to protect their citizens and peoples when > they are attacked. Indeed, that is a large part of the justification for > the existence of nation-states to begin with. The hysterical > Western/American reaction is absurd -- as if the old Cold War USSR has > landed the Red Army in Pennsylvania circa 1965 or something. What the hel. > In the meantime, Condi Rice signed a deal to put US missiles in Poland, > Russia's border. Imagine if Russia did that with Canada. But they didn't; > they went into a part o Ossetia and staunched a Georgian assault on ethnic > Russians.?

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> -Oliver?

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