[kj] Yos is full of it

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Fuck the lot of 'em
I hope they all die

Go read up WHAT WHERE...?

The FALL of

--- On Thu, 9/10/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:


> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot- palin vote

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Thursday, 9 October, 2008, 4:24 AM

> "According to what you wrote, any republican who would

> run; you'd say the

> same thing"

> 

> That's hardly fair. Obama, specifically, is talking

> about negotiating with

> Iran and pulling out of Iraq as soon as possible. McCain is

> talking about

> staying there and "winning," obliterating North

> Korea, and hasn't been

> nearly as open as Obama in regards discussions, let alone

> negotiations,

> with Iran.

> 

> I'm left leaning, for sure, and one of the reasons is

> because the left is

> perceived as less militant / expansionist. That's borne

> out vividly in

> Obama vs McCain (not that it's much of a competition

> anymore, I don't

> think it ever was in fact...incumbent administrations

> during financial

> disasters are toast...)

> 

> Have you got a link about Biden's gaff at all, I

> wasn't across that.

> 

> Whatever happens, I wish you all a better administration

> than the current

> one...

> 

> > He has the decency to look serious. For sure! But

> that's one of the

> > things that bug me. There is no doubt about him being

> a great orator

> > he present himself well and smooth. He can play the

> game very well.

> >

> > I just don't vote for someone who talks a great

> game. My life experience

> > has taught me that many times the really good talkers

> are the ones that

> > are full of it.

> >

> > What about Biden and the constitution? Well as

> unlikely as it sounds to

> > you

> > go read up on it. But it does make my point that no

> one mentions his lack

> > of understanding and gross misrepresentation.  No NYT,

> no WAPO no CNN

> > no NBC no MSNBC.... need I go on?

> >

> > Eloquent? No. Better on the ball to answer questions?

> (IMHO) Yes.

> >

> > In response to your vilification paragraph, that's

> about all

> > politicians not only Palin.

> > Barney Frank? Chris Dodd? Congress with a lower

> approval rating than Bush.

> > According to what you wrote, any republican who would

> run; you'd say the

> > same

> > thing (the same would probably apply to most

> democrats). So your opinion

> > is not that of her but that of the party.

> >

> > It doesn't have much to do with Palin.

> >

> > Enjoy your tea and biscuit... and if you need I just

> bought a bunch of

> > Kleenex!

> >

> > Best,

> > Me :)

> >

> > At 03:54 AM 10/8/2008, Brendan wrote:

> >>That smile didn't leave her face the whole

> >>time. I think one of the reasons she is irking

> people so much is that

> >>goddam smarmy omnipresent arrogant grin...it's

> so evocative of Dubbya.

> >>Obama on the other hand has the decency to look

> serious much of the time.

> >>

> >>What's all this about Biden and the

> constitution? That would be a much

> >>bigger gaff, but it sounds unlikely.

> >>

> >>I reiterate, I just don't think that even with

> Obama's experience she

> >>would ever be as eloquent a speaker as he.

> >>

> >>And in terms of her vilification, in my opinion

> (and speaking for myself)

> >>it's because people are sick to the back teeth

> with arrogant, out of

> >>touch, smug, militant, lying politicians with

> hidden agendas, pissing

> >> away

> >>other people's money, the lives of their loved

> ones, and the reputation

> >> of

> >>their country, in ill-founded wars overseas that

> are based on

> >> manipulative

> >>deceptive tactics...built on lies and primitive

> powermongering that's

> >> only

> >>ever going to make the world a crappier place for

> the majority. The whole

> >>time spending past present and future

> generations' money on widely

> >>unpopular self-serving political ends.

> >>

> >>I could go on but I need to sit down and have a cup

> of tea and biscuit, I

> >>think I'm having a hot flush...someone hand me

> a moistie.

> >>

> >>Oh and coup de grace: Brigit Bardot agrees with me

> -

> >>

> >>http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i-eONCWO6eJs-faQpwv7bL-oHYwQ

> >>

> >>

> >> > Soft on her? She's been the most vilified

> and attacked person in ages.

> >> >

> >> > The Bush Doctrine? What about Joe Biden's

> massive screwup

> >> > interpreting the constitution? (Wait a

> second! for someone who

> >> > has been in the field for 35 years... screws

> up so bad... Yet no one

> >> > says a word? AMAZING! This is the friggin

> CONSTITUTION!

> >> > But I've heard nary a peep.)

> >> >

> >> > As I've pointed out before, the

> interviewer (Mr. Gibson) himself did

> >> > not know the Bush doctrine and

> >> > was im