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McCain chose that retard to appeal to the brainless morons who think America is perfection...

ANOTHER EMPIRE BACKFIRE

goodnight I'm off to play pool and drink hobgoblin

--- On Wed, 8/10/08, Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com> wrote:


> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot- palin vote

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 6:25 PM

> Hi, Exorcist. 

> Look, no offense, really: But what do you think

> McCain's campaign is -- pure substance?

> Do you really, really, really think McCain

> "chose" Palin because she was truly the "best

> candidate"? 

> You're a sharp guy, for sure, but you know better than

> that.

> (Look, we all know Biden was a convenient pick for Obama,

> as well -- but at least he makes sense.)

> This sounds harsh, but I have to agree with Alex: She's

> shit. 

> And, in case you missed it, Sean Hannity had a blistering

> expose"on Obama's "ties" with William

> Ayers. Don't think the media hasn't been having a

> field day with that. 

> With all due respect, I have to disagree with you that

> Obama has gotten the kid-gloves treatment here. He

> hasn't -- nor should he. Neither should McCain. 

> (And if you don't think McCain doesn't have his own

> share of skeletons in the closet, you're kidding

> yourself. That doesn't mean McCain is terrible, mind

> you, but it's just the truth.)

> As a much-revered president once said about politics:

> "If you can't stand the heat ..."

> Please have a good day. 

> 

> Keep on rocking,

> 

> k.w.

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

>   From: The Exorcist 

>   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 

>   Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:10 AM

>   Subject: Re: [kj] ot- palin vote

> 

> 

>   I always said people's record is fair game. Have you

> looked up Obama's record?

>   Have you seen any of the big papers or bloggers go after

> his record? 

> 

>   Nope...

> 

>   I've yet to hear one thing that he has accomplished.

> 

>   His entire campaign is based on pure rhetoric. Though I

> am glad that you've come around to

>   agreeing about going after ones record and not their

> race/gender and just constant ad hominem attacks.

> 

>   At 07:12 AM 10/8/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:

> 

>     "She's been the most vilified and attacked

> person in ages."

> 

>     Hardly. If anything, she hasn't been attacked

> ENOUGH. Not about her gender or her character, but ABOUT HER

> RECORD.

> 

>     She's shit.

> 

>     Alex in NYC

> 

> 

>     On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:18 AM, The Exorcist wrote:

> 

> 

>       Soft on her? She's been the most vilified and

> attacked person in ages.

> 

>       The Bush Doctrine? What about Joe Biden's massive

> screwup interpreting the constitution? (Wait a second! for

> someone who

>       has been in the field for 35 years... screws up so

> bad... Yet no one says a word? AMAZING! This is the friggin

> CONSTITUTION!

>       But I've heard nary a peep.) 

> 

>       As I've pointed out before, the interviewer (Mr.

> Gibson) himself did not know the Bush doctrine and 

>       was immediately smacked down by the individual who

> coined the phrase (Charles Krauthammer).

>       I've linked to it in my previous emails when we

> had the whole Palin thing going on.

>      

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html

> 

> 

>       You may disagree all you want Brendan but you are

> dead wrong on this. 

>       Not to mention that even if you were correct, not

> knowing the constitution (after being in the service for 35

> years)

>       or not knowing the bush doctrine - you tell me which

> is more pathetic.

> 

>       (And I still stand by my opinion that Obama is a

> talentless hack who never accomplished anything and was

> hand-held

>       his entire career. Go and read up on how he achieved

> every job title he ever had.)

> 

>       Judge not lest ye be judged. :)

> 

>       Cheers,

>       Yos

> 

> 

>       At 12:07 AM 10/8/2008, Brendan wrote:

> 

>         "Given enough time she'd be just as good

> with talking points and gotcha's

>         as he is."

> 

>         That's an assumption I disagree with...unlike

> some others who have gone

>         soft on her, I think stuff like not knowing what

> the Bush Doctrine is is

>         absolutely pathetic, and provides more evidence

> that she's in there for

>         reasons of personality / looks / gender /

> demographic as opposed to talent

>         (gasp!).

> 

>         > Every poll is rigged... Look at the Daily Kos;

> they list every poll

>         > out there and tell everyone to go and vote to

> change the numbers.

>         > They do this for Obama, Palin, Mccain and

> every other friggin person out

>         > there.

>         >

>         > Look up freep and words similar to that.

>         >

>         > You ppl. really need to stop getting so fussy.

> :)

>         >

>         > When the Obama sent out the mass mailer to all

> their supporters to

>         > shut down the radio show

>         > that hosted some of his detractors I don't

> recall you worrying much

>         > about bias. :)

>         >

>         > BTW, IMHO, her qualifications are just as good

> as Obama (which means

>         > ZERO or close to it). He just has his

>         > talking points down better after campaigning

> for so long. Given

>         > enough time she'd be just as good with

> talking

>         > points and gotcha's as he is.

>         >

>         > Obama is currently in the lead and may very

> well win the election.

>         > Life goes on and you prepare for the next one.

>         >

>         > BTW.... The same thing that those nasty

> "republicans" are doing... is

>         > the same thing you are doing now.

>         >

>         > Cheers,

>         > Me :)

>         >

>         >

>         > At 11:12 AM 10/7/2008, fluw wrote:

>         >>Forward--

>         >>

>         >>PBS has an online poll posted asking if

> Sarah Palin is

>         >>qualified.  Apparently the Republicans knew

> about this in advance

>         >>and are flooding the voting with YES votes.

>  I know -- it's only a

>         >>poll.  But it will be reported on PBS,

> picked up by mainstream media

>         >>and can influence undecided voters in swing

> states. Please do two

>         >>things -- takes 20 seconds

>         >>1)  Click on link and vote yourself. 

> Here's the link:

>         >>

>         >><

> http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html >

> http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

>         >>2)  Then send this to every single voter

> you know, irregardless of

>         >>party affiliation, and  urge them to vote

> and pass it on.

>         >>The last thing we need is PBS having to say

> their viewers think

>         >>Sarah Palin is qualified unless we ALL

> vote.

>         >>Thanks.

>         >>

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>   We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your

> loss is someone

>   else's gain, and your gain is someone else's

> loss. Therefore, losers contribute

>   to the society and winners take away from it. Being a

> winner is unethical, while

>   a society of losers is happy and striving as a

> collective. In the spirit of diversity,

>   inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have

> no winners.

>   Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an

> ethical team player. 

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