[kj] OT: The Venus Project

folk devil folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 17 23:16:17 EST 2008



You're heading back to memetics ;)
Life expectancy has gone up from around 50 in 1900, to about 78/80 today, and it wasn't that long ago we could only expect to live to about 35.
Medicine has made many 'advances'..or are we just replacing the old with the new, and moulding the same thing into a different shape all the time?
Ich bin eine Maschine.

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:45:48 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Venus Project



















I think me & Ade are arguing tech vs
society.



Don’t forget technology is a
facilitator for society however. Without the critical mass of people and the survival
resiliency that plant & animal farming, specialisation and division of
labour provide (with their inherent costs of course), it’s not really
possible to have dedicated classes of priests, merchants, scribes, philosophers,
scientists etc etc. (Probably Amway salespeople as well).



The internet is going to be hugely
impacting in the way it affects society over time, that’s so obvious to
see. Want a record, movie, tv show? Steal it. Want to block access to
independent media to your population? Good like…we’ll use onion
routing, open web proxies, encryption etc to get around it.



Those old chestnuts of virtual reality and
AI…keep an eye on them. Cybernetics, nanotech, VR, AI, deeper understanding
of physics…they say that biology will be the physics of the 21st
century. Who knows.



Check it out…AI from about 2020-2030
on…computers are going to have the raw power of the human brain. Average ‘desktop’
computers, if there’s still such a think. That’s a game changer. The
20th century saw massive changes in lifestyle & standard of
living, the 21st. Well who knows what will happen, but short of
massive wars, famine, another dark ages, if technology is allowed to continue
apace, we’re in for a real paradigm shift I think.



I mean, this isn’t futurist fantasy
stuff, it’s just a natural extrapolation of the vector that science has
been on for the last 300 + years…



Don’t believe that society won’t
be affected.











From:
gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil

Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008
14:17

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Venus
Project





Well surveillance and control has
advanced quite nicely, ever since PCs went portable and cell phones became a
new appendage.. ;P



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