[kj] OT: The Venus Project

[The Exorcist]

Not to worry, we shall create many youyous and ususs to combat the memes!
MEMEPOOL NO MORE! :)

At 12:30 PM 11/14/2008, Brendan wrote:

>I have sorta been expecting something like this ever since the web came

>into being, or even email. Replication of memes is incredibly fast and

>almost impossible to stop by the corporate lobby.

>

>They have some interesting ideas.

>

>I already agree that rational, intelligent, well educated, unbiased minds

>(scientists in particular) should have far more say, over corporates,

>politicians, the religious lobby etc. Irrational lobby groups have far too

>much say.

>

>I agree that the military are an anachronism to a large extent (although

>until every disarms, there's no way you could go whole hog in one

>step...but the US pulling military out from o/s bases for example would be

>a start...)

>

>I agree that as soon as you remove people from behind the wheel of cars

>and implement a decent automated system, you'll basically kiss goodbye to

>the road toll. As much as petrol heads will be annoyed (tough)

>

>What I find interesting is their idea that human nature is largely

>irrelevant - it's the environment that dictates behaviour. In the absence

>of scarcity, people tend to be nice and share with each other. With

>scarcity and fear of scarcity, and hugely unequal distribution of wealth,

>to the point that many don't even have the basics...you end up with

>poverty, crime, poor health etc.

>

>Most of what they say makes perfect sense. I dunno about moving to a

>system of no money (Jaz agrees), but I do like the idea of doing away with

>countries.

>

>Interesting stuff, kind of what I've been harping on about for a while.

>

>Wonder how big their island is...?

>

>

>

> >

> > who ever does their PR is rather good ;)

> > they're all over the internets.."

> >

> >

> >

> > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:48:23 +1300From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.comTo:

> > gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: The Venus Project

> > 

> http://au.youtube.com/results?search_query=zeitgeist+refuted+1+of+10&search_type=&aq=0&oq=zeitgeist+refuted

> >

> > you checked out any of the anti-zeitgeist crowd? i got through a few

> > minutes.....

> >

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > So has anyone seen Zeitgeist: Addendum?

> >

> > Apart from the ridiculous idea of putting the word 'addendum' in a title

> > (?!), I quite enjoyed it. And I'm intrigued by 'The Venus Project.' (Well

> > mainly the part about self-replicating machines doing all the work I

> > suppose

)

> >

> > www.thevenusproject.com

> >

> > They really need someone to proof-read their manifesto though, for a bunch

> > of people espousing science over everything else, they can't write good.

> >

> > And it so should have been called Zeitgeist II: Zeit Geister.

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