[kj] oliver / fox election spin

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 6 19:24:01 EST 2008



> it is more like a cracker, sorta..


..like a cosmic communion wafer?

 
... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  





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From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:14:04 PM
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Mmm.. it is more like a cracker, sorta lumpy - wavy on the surface but inevitably flat is what I heard.
 

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From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:16 PM
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Sadly, a considerable amount of Americans believe the earth is flat.
Alex in NYC


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From: folk devil
Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin

A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/

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> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600

> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin

>

> You're asking me?

>

> For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly

> believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back

> to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the

> US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real

> meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the

> means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just

> means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.

>

> This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best

> comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US ,

> England , Germany , Taiwan , Japan , and Switzerland . It shws how other

> countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers

> of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to

> _capitalist democracies_:

>

>

> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

>

>

> And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of

> 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get

> far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care.

> Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant

> mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.

>

> It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not

> have it any other way.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

> Brendan wrote:

> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much

> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?

> >

> >

> >

>

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