[kj] [RE] Metallica Tonight at The Wiltern Theater

[ade]

It's clear that NWOBHM is the blueprint.

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>From a NWOBHM view I would say Metallica nicked more from Diamond Head than Maiden . . 



Marc 
(back from DIY hell) 



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Well, like I say mate, it's a good job Metallica had Maiden to show them what to do.

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Nah Metallica had superior speed, flow, aggression, tension / release.
Slightly technically superior as well.

To my mind that is. Not dissing Maiden at all, still dig them, just not as
much. First album is my favourite.


>> I'd rate 80s Metallica superior to 80s Iron Maiden in general. And great

>> name too.

>

> It's a good job Maiden already existed then, for Metallica to TOTALLY rip

> them off...

>

> Bit like saying those Penny Farthings? Nowhere near as good as my DMR !!!

>

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

> Sent: 15 May 2008 21:20

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> Subject: Re: [kj] [RE] Metallica Tonight at The Wiltern Theater

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>

>

> I got St Anger for free from a radio DJ twat flatmate I had a few years

> ago, couldn't give the thing away, it was like a curse. Eventually

> listened to it again after the first listen just through sheer sense of

> duty...it's god awful in my opinion. The title track St Anger sounds like a

> weak attempt to be Linkin Park. "Flush it out, flush it out" *barf*

>

>

>

> Having said that I'd love the chance to see Metallica, passed it up

> several years ago on the strength (weakness) of the pap they were putting

> it out, but apparently their live shows still kick ass. Oh well, I'll

> catch them when they're 80 I suppose. Hetfield's stance on guns and all

> that is another thing that puts me off these days as well. Metallica were

> lucky enough to tour with Soundgarden back in the day...

>

>

>

> But early Metallica, up to the over-produced but still solid Black

> album...great stuff. I'd rate 80s Metallica superior to 80s Iron Maiden in

> general. And great name too.

>

>

>

>

>   _____

>

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> On Behalf Of Javier Garcia

> Sent: Friday, 16 May 2008 6:56 a.m.

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> Subject: [kj] [RE] Metallica Tonight at The Wiltern Theater

>

>

>

> The setlist is really good! and just as you, i was hoping to get some news

> in your message about one or two new songs.

>

> I've seen them two times and i can assure you this set-list is way better

> than the couple i've had the chance to see (once touring after the Black

> Album -the first time they came to Mexico- and the second one -much

> better- after they released the 2nd "Garage Days" in '99)

>

> It's a surprise they didn't play but only a very few tracks of their more

> successful stage (Black album, Load, Reload). And what's even more

> surprising to me is that they didn't played a single song from "St Anger",

> it seems they may hate that album right now.

>

> I must recognize i'm looking forward to hear something of their new album.

> "St. Anger" was not good (still there were a few good tracks), but at

> least it was a brave experiment and a clear evidence they were trying to

> make something different, i give credit to the band for stepping away from

> that "successful" formula of their three previous albums.

>

> I see it this way: their first experiment trying to make something "new"

> wasn't good, they may have gained some experience with it, after this,

> their next album should sound a lot better than "St Anger" and still

> moving forward -musically speaking-. I don't expect something like back in

> the 80's days (which i used to like a lot), but at least some fresh-heavy

> proposal.

>

> Changing topic, but staying on this "metalhead" side, i got the The

> Cavalera Conspiracy (Max and Igor Cavalera + guests) "Inflikted" album and

> it's pretty good... Pure energy!!

>

> Javier

> mexcity

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>

> Wow. What a great show.

>

>

>

> Just to offer a bit of background, I'm not a huge Metallica fan. I have

> see

>

> them 3 times before, once at the beginning of the "And Justice For All"

> tour

>

> in late '89, early in the Black album tour in '91 with Faith No More and

>

> again the same tour with Guns n' Roses. After that, I lost interest even

>

> though I casually kept up on their post Black album releases.

>

>

>

> When tickets went on sale for this relatively small benefit show for a

> local

>

> music conservatory in Silver Lake, I figured it would at least be cool to

>

> see these guys in a small venue.

>

>

>

> I got to The Wiltern Theater around 6:30 which is usually plenty of time

> to

>

> get admittance in the pit as long as I'm within the first 200 - 250 in

> line

>

> to get in. Tonight was completely insane though. Probably because both the

>

> floor and the balcony was separate GA, it seemed like *everyone* going to

>

> the show was already there and the line went completely around the block.

> I

>

> have never seen so many people lined up to get in this venue that early

>

> before the doors opened.

>

>

>

> Still, they opened the doors around 7:15 and the line moved fast and I was

>

> able to get a great spot just outside the pit about 25 feet back from the

>

> stage. The place filled up really fast and the opening band was "Scars on

>

> Broadway" which was comprised of a few old members of System of a Down.

>

> Pretty decent band, kind of a cross between older Rush and maybe Anthrax

> or

>

> something. The audience was really well behaved through their set but you

>

> could tell everyone was just waiting to explode Once Metallica took the

>

> stage.

>

>

>

> And sure enough, just after 9:30, Metallica opened with "Am I Evil" and

> the

>

> place went nuts. Even though there were lots of signs posted warning

>

> against moshing and crowd surfing, there were several pockets of it going

> on

>

> through most of the show although by the last third of the show, it kind

> of

>

> died down especially after it appeared several people got pretty badly

>

> injured. Also I saw paramedics come in and haul at least two really wasted

>

> guys out from the front late in the show.

>

>

>

> The band itself was just incredibly tight from start to finish. Everyone

>

> seemed at the top of their game. Absolutely no weak links in the band at

>

> all. The sounded as muscular and precise as any time in the late 80's,

> imo.

>

> The sound was really fuckin' loud yet perfect sounding. From a musical

>

> standpoint, I couldn't ask for better. James rarely sang and played center

>

> stage, he usually stayed either on the right or left side mics while

>

> Trujillo and Hammit traded center stage. Hetfield only briefly spoke to

> the

>

> audience a few times about the reason for the benefit and the band pretty

>

> much just slammed through the set non stop.

>

>

>

> A cool part of the encore was when Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist Flea

> joined

>

> the band for "Fight Fire With Fire."

>

>

>

> The only downside was no new stuff from the upcoming album was played.

>

>

>

> Other than that, a superb show.

>

>

>

> setlist:

>

>

>

> Am I Evil

>

> Fuel

>

> For Whom The Bell Tolls

>

> Sanitarium

>

> And Justice For All

>

> Sad But True

>

> Disposable Heroes

>

> One

>

> Master Of Puppets

>

> Battery

>

> Encore 1:

>

> Quick jam/Last Caress/Green Hell

>

> No Remorse

>

> Enter Sandman

>

> Encore 2:

>

> Fight Fire With Fire (Flea guesting on Bass)

>

> Seek And Destroy

>

>

>

> T.B.

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