[kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
sade1
saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 27 17:02:04 EDT 2008
North of Wilshire Bl. area is pretty tame, north of Wilshire and west of, say,
Arlington/Wilton; that said, Hollywood(east of LaBrea) from Santa Monica bl.
to Hollywood bl.takes a bit of a dip.
North of Hollywood Bl. and into the hills and east to Los Feliz gets lots better.
> Others aren't really LA, either ;) LB and the 710 / 405 first thing in the morning..
LB [Long Beach?] and the 710/405Fwy. are pretty far away from the
Wilshire/Miracle Mile area, about at least 20 miles south, very different and
rough.... and the traffic.
folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } There are some seriously rough areas on that list, mate ;)
Others aren't really LA, either ;) LB and the 710 / 405 first thing in the morning, no thanks! ;)
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:32:47 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
Hm, my $800 was a bit low (i haven't moved in 10 years) but $1,500/mo. average
is a bit high, unless of course one wants to live 'high on the hog', or 'low on the hog' but
in Santa Monica or Brentwood, for examples. I know lots of people north of Wilshire Bl.
who are paying just under or over 1,000 w/no roomies.
[just in case anyone's searching, as I am too...]
$1,000/mo. can serve you pretty good, even more so during Jan-Feb. move-ins or mid-summer move-ins.
folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} The average rent for a one bedroom in LA is $1500 dollars.
Why do people keep referring to 'Bud' and 'Becks' as beer?
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:10:28 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
Damn, both LON and NZ are more expensive than even California, with SW London
closer to NYC prices. Puts things in perspective a bit, globally.
jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
SW London:
1 bedroom flat = £800 / month minimum
petrol = £1 per litre
beer = £3 for a bottle of Becks / Bud / etc (central London pubs)
gig = £20 approx
But that's London for you. Northern gatherers can tell you about the cost of flat caps and whippets...
Jamie
-----Original Message-----
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 8:41
Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
> ...we earn five eighth’s of fuck all compared to you rich cunts overseas.....
~~ "5/8 of a law that stinks...." ~~
Buying power is where it's at. What's your cost of living in NZ/Aotearoa?
Over here [u.s./los angeles] it's:
1 bedroom apt. = $800/mo.,
gasoline/petrol = $3.75/gal. [$1.00/liter],
groceries for 1 = > $100,
fast-food combo for = $5,
brkfst. @ basic diner = $10 for 1,
Decent non-club concert tickets = $30-55ea.,
Heineken/FostersBeer at a club = $5,
parking - hollywood club = $10-35,
cable internet access = $35/mo.[TWCable], etc.etc.
What are some others' local cost of living?
Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
.ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 p.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';color:#000099;} .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 h1 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:24.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';color:#000099;font-weight:bold;} .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 a:link, .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 a:visited, .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass
#EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';color:#000099;} .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 pre {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:#000099;} .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 span.EC_EmailStyle22 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} .ExternalClass #EC_AOLMsgPart_3_3ad0d4aa-0e8c-4210-ab10-66bb888dc397 div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} I reckon even though we earn five eighth’s of fuck all compared to you rich cunts overseas, over time New Zealand is gonna get more and more attractive as everywhere else runs out of food, water, energy, and pacifists. So HURRY UP, BUY A SHOVEL AND GET DOWN HERE! We’ve got a temple to build slackers.
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz
Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2008 11:59 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
hehe, last time I was in Whistler the resort was sponsored by Evian...water water everywhee
sade1 wrote:
~~ "WATER is our business..." ~~
US CORPORATIONS ARE PRESENTLY TRYING TO PRIVATISE THE WATER
IN CANADIA IN ORDER TO BUY IT AND SHIP IT SOUTH.
READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE.
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Subject: [grunder] Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns minister
From: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:25:51 -0500
To: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu
Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns minister By Ben Russell, Political Correspondent
Saturday, 22 March 2008
The world faces a future of 'water wars', unless action is taken to prevent international water shortages and sanitation issues escalating into conflicts, according to Gareth Thomas, the International Development minister.
The minister's warning came as a coalition of 27 international charities marked World Water Day, by writing to Gordon Brown demanding action to give fresh water to 1.1 billion people with poor supplies. 'If we do not act, the reality is that water supplies may become the subject of international conflict in the years ahead,' said Mr Thomas. 'We need to invest now to prevent us having to pay that price in the future.'
His department warned that two-thirds of the world's population will live in water-stressed countries by 2025. The stark prediction comes after the Prime Minister said in his national security strategy that pressure on water was one of the factors that could help countries 'tip into instability, state failure or conflict'.
The coalition of charities has appealed for a global effort to bring running water to the developing world and supply sanitation to a further 2.6 billion people. It said international action was needed to prevent competition for water destabilising communities and escalating into conflicts.
In their letter, the campaigners say: 'Tackling the water and sanitation crisis is essential if the 'Millennium Development Goal Call to Action' is to be a success, otherwise progress on health, education and environmental sustainability will be undermined. Each year 443 million school days are lost globally to diarrhoea and 1.8 million children die unnecessarily from these diseases.
'Investing in sanitation and water brings the greatest public health gains of any single development intervention and delivers huge economic returns. The G8 would do well to heed the development history of east Asian countries that put tackling these issues at the forefront of their national development efforts.'
Ministers agree the world needs to take urgent action to avoid missing Millennium Development Goals to halve the proportion of people without access to safe drinking water by 2015. That target should be met, although progress has been limited in sub-Saharan Africa.
Mr Brown's security strategy said 'rising temperatures together with extreme weather will increase pressures on water supplies'. It went on: 'A growing and increasingly urbanised global population will increase demand for food and water, at the same time as climate change and other trends put greater pressure on their supply.
'Already well over 1 billion people suffer from water shortages and 30 countries get more than a third of their water from outside their borders. With climate change, those figures are likely to grow, increasing the possibility of disputes.'
Charlie Kronick, senior climate adviser at Greenpeace, said the whole of sub-Saharan Africa, most of south Asia and western South America were at risk of water shortages if global warming continues.
'There is no doubt that climate change is going to be potentially the biggest source of water stress,' he said. 'If average global temperatures go more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels you are looking at 2 to 3 billion people potentially suffering water shortages. It's a pretty serious business.'
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