[kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Wed Mar 19 13:04:15 EDT 2008


What, so word-of-mouth (ie, chinese whispers) is going to be a damn sight more accurate than a single reference text? Yeah, you must be right.

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Sent: 19 March 2008 03:05
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American
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Yes but same applies to books, you at least have to pay for the printing
etc. The *information* can be freely disseminated, but the media its
carried over costs. Hell, it costs energy (and time) to speak...so in that
sense the internets is exactly the same.

PS: Please send me a cheque for Euro .50 for my time and energy in this
email. That's a discounted rate btw.


>> Question: why do we need the internet?

>

> Because it's out nature to communicate. It's not a moral thing. If you use

> Gmail, you know it's a damn sight more interested in what you're doing

> than either myspaz or facec0ck.

>

> The Church did the same regards the printing press. Don't let the masses

> get their hands on the word of god - we won't be needed! I think the web

> is like one big printing press open to ANYONE. Even people we don't want

> to hear from - sounds like free-ish expression to me! Free-ish in that I

> have to pay an ISP to access it (fair enough) & I musn't break the law.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

> Sent: 18 March 2008 12:57

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

> Right

>

>

> not arguing on behalf of the author in any of this but if anything its

> the very crux of the matter.

>

> The 'free' flow is actually being managed, exploiting people lulled

> into a false sence of security by the safe homely feel the product

> delivers (who chose the colour scheme...). The information is not free

> flowing, its being paid for. Its not like China banning access, its

> more subtle with the price of the service. Doesnt detract from the

> fact that its being managed, controlled, filtered. 1984 in action.

>

> Norman Tebbit stated that nothing is free and he was right. I dont

> deny the tool argument, i use gmail, course its a tool and we had this

> discussion with macs not long ago, the irony behind the iPat using a

> branded identity familiar with many.

>

> Question: why do we need the internet?

>

> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:07 PM, The Exorcist

> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:

>> . The Internet is all

>> about free flow of communication.

>> It's something that the Author seems to fail to relate too.

>

>

>> Ironic ehhh?

>

> morisettely so!

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