[kj] You know you're back on the mailing list when...

[Alexander Smith]

Yes, Welcome Back Alexi!!!

Alex in NYC



On Mar 19, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Phillipps Marc wrote:


> Welcome back Alexi

>

> :o)

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ]On Behalf Of Alexi Hamilton

> Sent: 18 March 2008 23:24

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: [kj] You know you're back on the mailing list when...

>

>    Well, kids, I'm back after lots of life changes and such.  I  

> totally forgot that I e-mailed Andy to put me back on the list a  

> couple of days ago and, VOILA!  There's 368 e-mails waiting for me!   

> I missed you guys!

>     Anyway, one other reason I got back on the list was the chatter  

> around that the original KJ lineup is back in action WITH none other  

> than Big Paul Ferguson!!!  I'm sure you guys have talked tirelessly  

> about this MONTHS ago but, like I said, I JUST got back a few days  

> ago so I'm still smiling like a loon about the news!  Anyway, its  

> good to be back.

>

> ~Alexi in OKC

>

>

> Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty axe, cometh Alexi!  

> And she gives a bloodthirsty scream:

> "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! I bring darkness and mayhem  

> like a four-year-old on a sugar rampage!!!"

>

>

> From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:07:08 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American  

> Right

>

> I can not think of a time in human history, even going back to stone  

> age when man wasn’t fucking over his fellow man. Survival of the  

> fittest and all that. I used to dream of that perfect world where  

> people were nice to each other and everyone could be trusted. Then I  

> grew up.

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

> Sent: 18 March 2008 22:23

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American  

> Right

>

> Case in point: Most of human history (before  classes existed)  

> involved far more sharing and cooperation than nastiness and fucking  

> people over. Other case in point: In situations where people have  

> little time to think or even act on how they have been socialized,  

> e.g. disaters, many people go as far as taking big risks to help  

> others. So why not try to work for societies where this behavior is  

> allowed to flourish (after a revolution, b/c capitalism makes too  

> many reasons why it can't)...

> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:18 +0000

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American  

> Right

> > As long as people can profit from fucking up other people, they  

> will!

>

> So, really this goes much further than corporates, crapitalism & all  

> that, surely? If mankind is happy to fuck itself over, well, maybe  

> all the nastiness that mankind metes out is going to hapooen one way  

> or another, no matter what system is in place? Surely it's easier  

> for everyone to just blame the 'bad man' instead of facing up to  

> mankinds' ability to be very GOOD & very BAD?

>

> Sadly, revolution just replaces one bunch of controllers with another.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ]On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

> Sent: 18 March 2008 03:28

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American  

> Right

> Thanks for the compliment, Brendan. That was a good post. And what  

> you're saying even goes beyond advertising. I've heard that 2 of the  

> most profitable things in the world are prostitution and illegal  

> drugs, which aren't even advertised...As long as people can profit  

> from fucking up other people, they will! (Of course I don't have to  

> add the tag about revolution--y'all know that already).

> P.S> RIP Mikey Dread!

>

> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:06:01 +1300

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New  

> American Right

> >

> > Yeah I hear you, but I just think that the negative social messages

> > portrayed by corporates and the press (same thing) that I'm  

> talking about

> > are too intrusive, and the target audience is too vulnerable.

> >

> > Does it not bother you that you drive through the city and  

> practically

> > wherever you are, you can't avoid catching billboards featuring  

> the most

> > beautiful people they can find, surgically enhanced, gymmed up,  

> fake tan,

> > expensive clothes, expensive photoshoot, photoshopped...who can  

> live up to

> > that?! And the messages they portray, the smug aloof superior  

> looks on their

> > faces..."This shit is exclusive! Only top grade pussy wears  

> Gucci...you

> > could never interest anyone that sexy..."

> >

> > We're fucking devolving, maaaaaan.

> >

> > And what is the alternative? Cities could be made to actually look

> > beautiful, messages could be positive messages about US as opposed  

> to US vs

> > THEM (the beautiful people vs the masses...the rich vs the poor, the

> > discerning vs the plain, the popular vs the losers, the SPECIAL vs  

> the drab)

> >

> > The statistics are overwhelming...the amount of ads on children's  

> tv for

> > nutritionless harmful super-sweet food vs healthy food that will  

> actually

> > benefit them in some way, the bullshit collaboration between the  

> press and

> > govt / corporate lobby groups, the OWNERSHIP of the press by  

> corporates with

> > no social responsibility, etc etc. It's all very well saying 'hey  

> you can

> > opt out at any time' but it's not that easy. (I just gave my telly  

> away,

> > that helped a lot). I've seen it intensify since I was a  

> kid...back in the

> > day when I was a kid the telly wanted to sell me sports equipment,  

> lego and

> > other toys that would actually enhance my learning, and yes,  

> plastic pieces

> > of shit at McDonalds and junk food, now kids are getting pressure  

> to have a

> > cellphone, dress like an adult way before they are out of  

> childhood, behave

> > like the vapid actors and actresses on the faux reality-tv  

> programmes about

> > spoiled LA brats...

> >

> > NOTHING TO SAY!

> >

> > (Olly where are you when I need you hippie, back me up here I've  

> gone out on

> > a limb and I'm starting to invent words to bloster my argument. Or  

> Greg,

> > you're completely wrong about Soundgarden but you're the leftist  

> of the

> > bunch, you're needed at the front! ;)

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On

> > Behalf Of ade

> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:30 a.m.

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New  

> American Right

> >

> > Dude, if people want to be smug fucking thin-veneered shallow  

> motherfuckers,

> > what's new??!! Ooh, I've got a lifestyle, I've got a fancy car,  

> etc, etc.

> > That's THEM. Don't *just* blame consumerism - people like that  

> would do it

> > anyway... sometimes I think the lefty point of view just doesn't  

> get that

> > *many* people are vile !!!! Ooh, let's all cuddle-up & send bad  

> vibes to

> > the corporates - lol !!!

> >

> > Don't you see that this is all about human communication? Constantly

> > evolving. The pendulum swings both ways... as do you! ;)

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

> > Sent: 17 March 2008 22:19

> > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

> > Right

> >

> >

> > A lot of us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to sell us his

> > merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans to discuss KJ  

> etc...so I

> > suppose you could say Facebook conjures in some people a similar

> > sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a bit  

> different. One of

> > the author's main gripes is the cynical commodititisation,

> > electronification, and distancification of basic human  

> interaction, if you

> > follow my invented words. The popularity contest with friends  

> lists, that's

> > the kind of stuff that REALLY gets on my goat, personally. I mean  

> what,

> > aren't all the bullshit messages on billboards, tv, magazines,  

> movies etc

> > enough to convince us that life is all about material wealth,  

> populatiry,

> > and physical beauty?! The message is so overwhelmingly

> > prevalent...personally it disgusts me. Some areas seem to be chock  

> full of

> > people all with the perfect haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car etc,  

> and they

> > just radiate smug / superior. It's sickly. I could easily turn  

> into one of

> > those people if I wanted, but why? I'd quite honestly prefer  

> hanging out

> > with EMOs :)

> >

> > Re. the sale of personal information to corporates (personal  

> information

> > such as bands you like, your location, age, gender, etc). I think  

> he has a

> > point, and I think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the  

> creators of

> > Facebook too. He may have gone a bit rabid on it...perhaps.

> >

> > In terms of conspiracy 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy  

> theory

> > becomes a conspiracy reality...do people take notice? Another  

> question...how

> > many people think that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey  

> Oswald? How

> > many people with any basic understanding of physics, think that...?

> >

> > As Bill Hicks said...Back and to the left...back and to the left...

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On

> > Behalf Of ade

> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New  

> American Right

> >

> > Pat-ster,

> >

> > I'm surprised you can't see just what a heap of sh!t that so-called

> > article is. Wow - big money people invest in things that could be  

> big.

> > NOT ONCE have I had to divulge any information such as purchasing

> > preferences, ID card details (what fucking ID card??? Is he writing

> > from the future???), etc, to Facebook HQ whilst setting up or using

> > my account. I find it useful to keep in touch with people from work.

> > Neither have I had to divulge anything to Myspace - I have a load of

> > Myspace pages for music projects. It's somewhere to upload mp3's!

> >

> > And if you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm *proper* paranoid, lol &

> > b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for anything. I don't want

> > the scum to know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely register for *anything*

> > on the web.

> >

> > Now, did you post that turd? I bet they'll be x-raying the package.

> > They're watching you... ;)

> >

> >

> > ade.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

> > Sent: 17 March 2008 18:22

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

> > Right

> >

> >

> > A shame i wasted my useful time reading that email

> > i wonder if i could pen a patronising bit of drivvel as well

> >

> > Who knows, maybe e can get some prick to autograph it, though it  

> might

> > hide behind pseudonyms to give itself a false platform of

> > intelligence.

> >

> > ill call it

> >

> > "a fart under the covers"

> >

> > off now, feel a shit coming on. I ll send it somewhere.

> >

> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist

> > <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > A shame I wasted my useful time reading that crap.

> > > I wonder if I ought to pen a long article about that as well!

> > >

> > > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom Hodgkinson autograph it.  

> Though he'll

> > > probably use a

> > > false signature to avoid detection... Just in case.... Ya know?

> > >

> > > I'll call it

> > >

> > > "Angry male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises  

> successful

> > people

> > > who have

> > > different political views than he does".

> > >

> > > Maybe I'll submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that  

> they like

> > to

> > > publish some really crappy articles.

> > >

> > >

> > iPat

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