[kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

[The Exorcist]

Actually, come to think of it, there are many times when rationale 
does not supersede instinct.
Have you ever heard of "Fight or flight"? It's pre-programmed baby. 
All animals respond to stressors.

There are some intrinsic facets of the human being that will be there 
whether you like it or not.
As advanced as our brains are we still have base needs. Some more 
than others. Some people have
the capacity to differentiate between good and bad some don't.

Animals will invade other animals areas to get at better food and 
location. Have you ever read up on the bears
when they come out of hibernation and go to catch fish. They all 
fight over the best spot to catch the most fish.
We're quite similar.

What defines the collective good? Is there really an answer? Say 
everyone in a group has the same goals
and they all work towards it. One day Jack meets Lucy, falls in love 
with her and they become a couple. John
on the other hand who might be a really great guy also loves Lucy but 
he can't get her because she is with Jack.
John will have a sense of jealousy or rage or some other emotion that 
will make him dislike Jack. BOOM! There
goes the social niceties. How about equally dividing portions of 
food. One fellow is huge and gets more food than a
smaller fellow. However one small fellow happens to have a voracious 
appetite and needs more food than others
his size (I'm not referring to gluttons here). That would cause an 
issue as well. These might not be the best examples
but you get the gist.

As much as you want to make a mutual co-op of mankind it will not 
happen as there are always individual needs that
need to be met. And as many as there are that are willing to 
sacrifice there will be just as many that won't. The ones that
won't will cause issues and people will have to learn how to deal 
with that. If a wrong is done then there will be a punishment.
That will lead to more angst amongst family and friends etc...

Needless to say, we must all strive to better ourselves as 
individuals. However we should also be aware of the world
around us and not fool ourselves into thinking all is well.  Ask 
those people that want to instill extreme sharia law to the world.
Trust me, as nice as you are, it won't matter.

Wait till you see all the kids who play soccer these days with no 
"loser", every game is a tie yadda yadda. Everything is nice
and tidy to them. But when they get older and things get difficult 
they will have no clue how to deal with this "unexpected" event.
It scares the shit out of me. Yet people seem to believe that it will 
work. The truth however, is that it simply won't.

A world of clones with no individuality will lead to ignorance and emptiness.

Cheers,
Me

At 07:57 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:


>I know there's also evidence of "primitive" cooperative societies 

>where the food was shared and stuff. But I think the main weakness 

>in your point (isn;t that what the BBC people call the news in the 

>UK) is in comparing human behavior to the evolution of animals. 

>Humans are the only animals that can significantly control their 

>environments, b/c are brains are so friggin' evolved (esp. among 

>Joke fans)! We are able to choose behaviors that go way beyond 

>remnants of our evolution. In fact, we often  choose behaviors that 

>are worse than those related to our animal roots--e.g., invading 

>other countries. SO i think it's a mistake to say that we are 

>programmed to be mean, when humans can display a huge range of 

>behavior. The point is to develop a culture in which mutually 

>cooperative behaviors are chosen (and I know you'll probably say 

>that what's good for one person is bad for another, etc. but i think 

>working for the collective good actually works best).


Regardless of your inferior opinions, I'll always be willing to sit down
and allow any of you to buy me a drink in order for me to elucidate you on
the errors of your ways. Life is too short. Your life, I mean, if you
don't change those opinions. Oh, it's your round. Yeah, bag of crisps
would be great. Salt and vinegar. I'll be on the bog...hey do you have any
stamps? I have to post something.
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