[kj] Gems of Power/ Small Claims Court

[Peter LAMB]

I read that someone on the Gathering was going to pursue a refund for
Gems Of Power in the small claims court recently. Anything come of it?

I received an email out of the blue around the time of Raven's Gathering
in the UK from Matt Luxon saying that I could have a refund. I confirmed
my details with him but nothing has happened since and my emails go
surprise, surprise un-replied.


Cheers,
Peter


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   1. OT: RIP Capt. Birdseye (Alexandra Tolksdorf)
   2. Re: ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right (Mik)
   3. OT: RIP Arthur C Clarke (nogger4228 at aol.com)
   4. Re: ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right
      (B. Oliver Sheppard)
   5. You know you're back on the mailing list when... (Alexi Hamilton)


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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:07:08 -0000
From: "Mik" <mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American
	Right
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I can not think of a time in human history, even going back to stone age
when man wasn't fucking over his fellow man. Survival of the fittest and
all
that. I used to dream of that perfect world where people were nice to
each
other and everyone could be trusted. Then I grew up.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On
Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: 18 March 2008 22:23
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American
Right

 

Case in point: Most of human history (before  classes existed) involved
far
more sharing and cooperation than nastiness and fucking people over.
Other
case in point: In situations where people have little time to think or
even
act on how they have been socialized, e.g. disaters, many people go as
far
as taking big risks to help others. So why not try to work for societies
where this behavior is allowed to flourish (after a revolution, b/c
capitalism makes too many reasons why it can't)... 

  _____  

Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:18 +0000
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American
Right


> As long as people can profit from fucking up other people, they will!


 

So, really this goes much further than corporates, crapitalism & all
that,
surely? If mankind is happy to fuck itself over, well, maybe all the
nastiness that mankind metes out is going to hapooen one way or another,
no
matter what system is in place? Surely it's easier for everyone to just
blame the 'bad man' instead of facing up to mankinds' ability to be very
GOOD & very BAD?

 

Sadly, revolution just replaces one bunch of controllers with another.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: 18 March 2008 03:28
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American
Right

Thanks for the compliment, Brendan. That was a good post. And what
you're
saying even goes beyond advertising. I've heard that 2 of the most
profitable things in the world are prostitution and illegal drugs, which
aren't even advertised...As long as people can profit from fucking up
other
people, they will! (Of course I don't have to add the tag about
revolution--y'all know that already).
P.S> RIP Mikey Dread!


> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:06:01 +1300

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

Right

> 

> Yeah I hear you, but I just think that the negative social messages

> portrayed by corporates and the press (same thing) that I'm talking

about

> are too intrusive, and the target audience is too vulnerable. 

> 

> Does it not bother you that you drive through the city and practically

> wherever you are, you can't avoid catching billboards featuring the

most

> beautiful people they can find, surgically enhanced, gymmed up, fake

tan,

> expensive clothes, expensive photoshoot, photoshopped...who can live

up to

> that?! And the messages they portray, the smug aloof superior looks on

their

> faces..."This shit is exclusive! Only top grade pussy wears

Gucci...you

> could never interest anyone that sexy..." 

> 

> We're fucking devolving, maaaaaan.

> 

> And what is the alternative? Cities could be made to actually look

> beautiful, messages could be positive messages about US as opposed to

US
vs

> THEM (the beautiful people vs the masses...the rich vs the poor, the

> discerning vs the plain, the popular vs the losers, the SPECIAL vs the

drab)

> 

> The statistics are overwhelming...the amount of ads on children's tv

for

> nutritionless harmful super-sweet food vs healthy food that will

actually

> benefit them in some way, the bullshit collaboration between the press

and

> govt / corporate lobby groups, the OWNERSHIP of the press by

corporates
with

> no social responsibility, etc etc. It's all very well saying 'hey you

can

> opt out at any time' but it's not that easy. (I just gave my telly

away,

> that helped a lot). I've seen it intensify since I was a kid...back in

the

> day when I was a kid the telly wanted to sell me sports equipment,

lego
and

> other toys that would actually enhance my learning, and yes, plastic

pieces

> of shit at McDonalds and junk food, now kids are getting pressure to

have
a

> cellphone, dress like an adult way before they are out of childhood,

behave

> like the vapid actors and actresses on the faux reality-tv programmes

about

> spoiled LA brats...

> 

> NOTHING TO SAY!

> 

> (Olly where are you when I need you hippie, back me up here I've gone

out
on

> a limb and I'm starting to invent words to bloster my argument. Or

Greg,

> you're completely wrong about Soundgarden but you're the leftist of

the

> bunch, you're needed at the front! ;) 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:30 a.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

Right

> 

> Dude, if people want to be smug fucking thin-veneered shallow

motherfuckers,

> what's new??!! Ooh, I've got a lifestyle, I've got a fancy car, etc,

etc.

> That's THEM. Don't *just* blame consumerism - people like that would

do it

> anyway... sometimes I think the lefty point of view just doesn't get

that

> *many* people are vile !!!! Ooh, let's all cuddle-up & send bad vibes

to

> the corporates - lol !!!

> 

> Don't you see that this is all about human communication? Constantly

> evolving. The pendulum swings both ways... as do you! ;)

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

> Sent: 17 March 2008 22:19

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

> Right

> 

> 

> A lot of us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to sell us his

> merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans to discuss KJ

etc...so
I

> suppose you could say Facebook conjures in some people a similar

> sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a bit different.

One of

> the author's main gripes is the cynical commodititisation,

> electronification, and distancification of basic human interaction, if

you

> follow my invented words. The popularity contest with friends lists,

that's

> the kind of stuff that REALLY gets on my goat, personally. I mean

what,

> aren't all the bullshit messages on billboards, tv, magazines, movies

etc

> enough to convince us that life is all about material wealth,

populatiry,

> and physical beauty?! The message is so overwhelmingly

> prevalent...personally it disgusts me. Some areas seem to be chock

full of

> people all with the perfect haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car etc, and

they

> just radiate smug / superior. It's sickly. I could easily turn into

one of

> those people if I wanted, but why? I'd quite honestly prefer hanging

out

> with EMOs :)

> 

> Re. the sale of personal information to corporates (personal

information

> such as bands you like, your location, age, gender, etc). I think he

has a

> point, and I think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the

creators of

> Facebook too. He may have gone a bit rabid on it...perhaps.

> 

> In terms of conspiracy 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy

theory

> becomes a conspiracy reality...do people take notice? Another

question...how

> many people think that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald?

How

> many people with any basic understanding of physics, think that...?

> 

> As Bill Hicks said...Back and to the left...back and to the left...

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

Right

> 

> Pat-ster,

> 

> I'm surprised you can't see just what a heap of sh!t that so-called

> article is. Wow - big money people invest in things that could be big.

> NOT ONCE have I had to divulge any information such as purchasing

> preferences, ID card details (what fucking ID card??? Is he writing

> from the future???), etc, to Facebook HQ whilst setting up or using

> my account. I find it useful to keep in touch with people from work.

> Neither have I had to divulge anything to Myspace - I have a load of

> Myspace pages for music projects. It's somewhere to upload mp3's!

> 

> And if you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm *proper* paranoid, lol &

> b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for anything. I don't want

> the scum to know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely register for *anything*

> on the web.

> 

> Now, did you post that turd? I bet they'll be x-raying the package.

> They're watching you... ;)

> 

> 

> ade.

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

> Sent: 17 March 2008 18:22

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

> Right

> 

> 

> A shame i wasted my useful time reading that email

> i wonder if i could pen a patronising bit of drivvel as well

> 

> Who knows, maybe e can get some prick to autograph it, though it might

> hide behind pseudonyms to give itself a false platform of

> intelligence.

> 

> ill call it

> 

> "a fart under the covers"

> 

> off now, feel a shit coming on. I ll send it somewhere.

> 

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist

> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:

> >

> > A shame I wasted my useful time reading that crap.

> > I wonder if I ought to pen a long article about that as well!

> >

> > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom Hodgkinson autograph it. Though

he'll

> > probably use a

> > false signature to avoid detection... Just in case.... Ya know?

> >

> > I'll call it

> >

> > "Angry male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises successful

> people

> > who have

> > different political views than he does".

> >

> > Maybe I'll submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that they

like

> to

> > publish some really crappy articles.

> >

> >

> iPat

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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:16:16 -0400
From: nogger4228 at aol.com
Subject: [kj] OT: RIP Arthur C Clarke
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:23:13 -0500
From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American
	Right
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
	<gathering at misera.net>
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What's your point? Rape has also probably existed for time immemorial. 
So that makes it okay? Might as well not be against it, because it's 
inevitable? Grow up and accept it?
That's pretty lazy.

Longevity does not = inevitability.

So you grew up to be a passive fatalist - good for you. Like Max 
Horkheimer said, "Well informed cynicism is only another form of 
conformity."

-Oliver


Mik wrote:

>

> I can not think of a time in human history, even going back to stone 

> age when man wasn?t fucking over his fellow man. Survival of the 

> fittest and all that. I used to dream of that perfect world where 

> people were nice to each other and everyone could be trusted. Then I 

> grew up.

>




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:24:07 +0000
From: Alexi Hamilton <alexih at hotmail.com>
Subject: [kj] You know you're back on the mailing list when...
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
	<gathering at misera.net>
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   Well, kids, I'm back after lots of life changes and such.  I totally
forgot that I e-mailed Andy to put me back on the list a couple of days
ago and, VOILA!  There's 368 e-mails waiting for me!  I missed you guys!

    Anyway, one other reason I got back on the list was the chatter
around that the original KJ lineup is back in action WITH none other
than Big Paul Ferguson!!!  I'm sure you guys have talked tirelessly
about this MONTHS ago but, like I said, I JUST got back a few days ago
so I'm still smiling like a loon about the news!  Anyway, its good to be
back.
 
~Alexi in OKC

Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty axe, cometh Alexi! And
she gives a bloodthirsty scream:
"Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! I bring darkness and mayhem
like a four-year-old on a sugar rampage!!!"   


From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 18 Mar
2008 23:07:08 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook &
The New American Right








I can not think of a time in human history, even going back to stone age
when man wasn?t fucking over his fellow man. Survival of the fittest and
all that. I used to dream of that perfect world where people were nice
to each other and everyone could be trusted. Then I grew up.
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSONSent: 18 March 2008 22:23To: A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone -
Facebook & The New American Right
 
Case in point: Most of human history (before  classes existed) involved
far more sharing and cooperation than nastiness and fucking people over.
Other case in point: In situations where people have little time to
think or even act on how they have been socialized, e.g. disaters, many
people go as far as taking big risks to help others. So why not try to
work for societies where this behavior is allowed to flourish (after a
revolution, b/c capitalism makes too many reasons why it can't)... 



Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:18 +0000From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.ukTo:
gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook &
The New American Right


> As long as people can profit from fucking up other people, they will!


 

So, really this goes much further than corporates, crapitalism & all
that, surely? If mankind is happy to fuck itself over, well, maybe all
the nastiness that mankind metes out is going to hapooen one way or
another, no matter what system is in place? Surely it's easier for
everyone to just blame the 'bad man' instead of facing up to mankinds'
ability to be very GOOD & very BAD?

 

Sadly, revolution just replaces one bunch of controllers with another.

 

-----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSONSent: 18
March 2008 03:28To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New
American Right
Thanks for the compliment, Brendan. That was a good post. And what
you're saying even goes beyond advertising. I've heard that 2 of the
most profitable things in the world are prostitution and illegal drugs,
which aren't even advertised...As long as people can profit from fucking
up other people, they will! (Of course I don't have to add the tag about
revolution--y'all know that already).P.S> RIP Mikey Dread!> From:
bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008
12:06:01 +1300> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The
New American Right> > Yeah I hear you, but I just think that the
negative social messages> portrayed by corporates and the press (same
thing) that I'm talking about> are too intrusive, and the target
audience is too vulnerable. > > Does it not bother you that you drive
through the city and practically> wherever you are, you can't avoid
catching billboards featuring the most> beautiful people they can find,
surgically enha
 nced, gymmed up, fake tan,> expensive clothes, expensive photoshoot,
photoshopped...who can live up to> that?! And the messages they portray,
the smug aloof superior looks on their> faces..."This shit is exclusive!
Only top grade pussy wears Gucci...you> could never interest anyone that
sexy..." > > We're fucking devolving, maaaaaan.> > And what is the
alternative? Cities could be made to actually look> beautiful, messages
could be positive messages about US as opposed to US vs> THEM (the
beautiful people vs the masses...the rich vs the poor, the> discerning
vs the plain, the popular vs the losers, the SPECIAL vs the drab)> > The
statistics are overwhelming...the amount of ads on children's tv for>
nutritionless harmful super-sweet food vs healthy food that will
actually> benefit them in some way, the bullshit collaboration between
the press and> govt / corporate lobby groups, the OWNERSHIP of the press
by corporates with> no social responsibility, etc etc. It's all very wel
 l saying 'hey you can> opt out at any time' but it's not that easy. (I
just gave my telly away,> that helped a lot). I've seen it intensify
since I was a kid...back in the> day when I was a kid the telly wanted
to sell me sports equipment, lego and> other toys that would actually
enhance my learning, and yes, plastic pieces> of shit at McDonalds and
junk food, now kids are getting pressure to have a> cellphone, dress
like an adult way before they are out of childhood, behave> like the
vapid actors and actresses on the faux reality-tv programmes about>
spoiled LA brats...> > NOTHING TO SAY!> > (Olly where are you when I
need you hippie, back me up here I've gone out on> a limb and I'm
starting to invent words to bloster my argument. Or Greg,> you're
completely wrong about Soundgarden but you're the leftist of the> bunch,
you're needed at the front! ;) > > > -----Original Message-----> From:
gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On>
Behalf Of ade> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:30 a.m.> To: A list about all things
Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone -
Facebook & The New American Right> > Dude, if people want to be smug
fucking thin-veneered shallow motherfuckers,> what's new??!! Ooh, I've
got a lifestyle, I've got a fancy car, etc, etc.> That's THEM. Don't
*just* blame consumerism - people like that would do it> anyway...
sometimes I think the lefty point of view just doesn't get that> *many*
people are vile !!!! Ooh, let's all cuddle-up & send bad vibes to> the
corporates - lol !!!> > Don't you see that this is all about human
communication? Constantly> evolving. The pendulum swings both ways... as
do you! ;)> > -----Original Message-----> From:
gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> Sent: 17 March 2008 22:19> To: 'A list about
all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want
Everyone - Facebook & The New American
 > Right> > > A lot of us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to
sell us his> merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans to
discuss KJ etc...so I> suppose you could say Facebook conjures in some
people a similar> sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a
bit different. One of> the author's main gripes is the cynical
commodititisation,> electronification, and distancification of basic
human interaction, if you> follow my invented words. The popularity
contest with friends lists, that's> the kind of stuff that REALLY gets
on my goat, personally. I mean what,> aren't all the bullshit messages
on billboards, tv, magazines, movies etc> enough to convince us that
life is all about material wealth, populatiry,> and physical beauty?!
The message is so overwhelmingly> prevalent...personally it disgusts me.
Some areas seem to be chock full of> people all with the perfect
haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car etc, and they> just radiate smug /
superior. It's sickly. I
  could easily turn into one of> those people if I wanted, but why? I'd
quite honestly prefer hanging out> with EMOs :)> > Re. the sale of
personal information to corporates (personal information> such as bands
you like, your location, age, gender, etc). I think he has a> point, and
I think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the creators of>
Facebook too. He may have gone a bit rabid on it...perhaps.> > In terms
of conspiracy 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy theory> becomes
a conspiracy reality...do people take notice? Another question...how>
many people think that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald?
How> many people with any basic understanding of physics, think
that...?> > As Bill Hicks said...Back and to the left...back and to the
left...> > -----Original Message-----> From:
gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On>
Behalf Of ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.> To: A list about
all things Killing Joke (the ba
 nd!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New
American Right> > Pat-ster,> > I'm surprised you can't see just what a
heap of sh!t that so-called> article is. Wow - big money people invest
in things that could be big.> NOT ONCE have I had to divulge any
information such as purchasing> preferences, ID card details (what
fucking ID card??? Is he writing> from the future???), etc, to Facebook
HQ whilst setting up or using> my account. I find it useful to keep in
touch with people from work.> Neither have I had to divulge anything to
Myspace - I have a load of> Myspace pages for music projects. It's
somewhere to upload mp3's!> > And if you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm
*proper* paranoid, lol &> b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for
anything. I don't want> the scum to know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely
register for *anything*> on the web.> > Now, did you post that turd? I
bet they'll be x-raying the package.> They're watching you... ;)> > >
ade.> > -----Or
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[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat> Sent: 17 March
2008 18:22> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American>
Right> > > A shame i wasted my useful time reading that email> i wonder
if i could pen a patronising bit of drivvel as well> > Who knows, maybe
e can get some prick to autograph it, though it might> hide behind
pseudonyms to give itself a false platform of> intelligence.> > ill call
it> > "a fart under the covers"> > off now, feel a shit coming on. I ll
send it somewhere.> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist>
<killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:> >> > A shame I wasted my
useful time reading that crap.> > I wonder if I ought to pen a long
article about that as well!> >> > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom
Hodgkinson autograph it. Though he'll> > probably use a> > false
signature to avoid detection..
 . Just in case.... Ya know?> >> > I'll call it> >> > "Angry male who
sees conspiracies everywhere and despises successful> people> > who
have> > different political views than he does".> >> > Maybe I'll submit
it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that they like> to> > publish
some really crappy articles.> >> >> iPat>
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