[kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

[Brendan]

Haven't seen that, I'll check out youtube when I'm home. Has anyone read
any John Pilger? Aussie investigative journo...I tried, REALLY TRIED to
read Tom Friedman's book on globalisation, can't even remember what it's
called now. The sickle and the olive branch or some such. In the interests
of a balanced argument and trying to see all sides, I try to read stuff
with a different slant to what I normally would. Same deal with Ayn Rand
(ugh).

But I couldn't stomach it. So I ended up reading John Pilger's 'The New
Rulers of the World.' I highly recommend it. A different view on what
globalisation has done for some of those who have been globalised.

www.johnpilger.com has a lot of his articles. Along the lines of Robert
Fisk, Mike Moore, Noam Chomsky etc.



>

> Did anyone ever see the movie (late 80s?) called "THey Live", directed by

> John Carpenter? Now THAT"S a revolutionary, anti-capitalist,

> anti-consumerist flick! It's also a fun, funny, sci-fi/action/horror romp

> too, but the politics are huge!> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To:

> gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:19:19 +1300> Subject: Re:

> [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right> > A lot of

> us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to sell us his> merchandise

> when this list was created for KJ fans to discuss KJ etc...so I> suppose

> you could say Facebook conjures in some people a similar>

> sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a bit different. One

> of> the author's main gripes is the cynical commodititisation,>

> electronification, and distancification of basic human interaction, if

> you> follow my invented words. The popularity contest with friends lists,

> that's> the kind of stuff that REALLY gets on my goat, personally. I mean

> what,> aren't all the bullshit messages on billboards, tv, magazines,

> movies etc> enough to convince us that life is all about material wealth,

> populatiry,> and physical beauty?! The message is so overwhelmingly>

> prevalent...personally it disgusts me. Some areas seem to be chock full

> of> people all with the perfect haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car etc, and

> they> just radiate smug / superior. It's sickly. I could easily turn into

> one of> those people if I wanted, but why? I'd quite honestly prefer

> hanging out> with EMOs :)> > Re. the sale of personal information to

> corporates (personal information> such as bands you like, your location,

> age, gender, etc). I think he has a> point, and I think it's relevant to

> discuss the motives of the creators of> Facebook too. He may have gone a

> bit rabid on it...perhaps.> > In terms of conspiracy 'theories'...a

> question: When a conspiracy theory> becomes a conspiracy reality...do

> people take notice? Another question...how> many people think that Kennedy

> was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald? How> many people with any basic

> understanding of physics, think that...?> > As Bill Hicks said...Back and

> to the left...back and to the left...> > -----Original Message-----> From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On>

> Behalf Of ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.> To: A list about

> all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want

> Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right> > Pat-ster,> > I'm surprised

> you can't see just what a heap of sh!t that so-called> article is. Wow -

> big money people invest in things that could be big.> NOT ONCE have I had

> to divulge any information such as purchasing> preferences, ID card

> details (what fucking ID card??? Is he writing> from the future???), etc,

> to Facebook HQ whilst setting up or using> my account. I find it useful to

> keep in touch with people from work.> Neither have I had to divulge

> anything to Myspace - I have a load of> Myspace pages for music projects.

> It's somewhere to upload mp3's!> > And if you think I'm blind to it, a)

> I'm *proper* paranoid, lol &> b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for

> anything. I don't want> the scum to know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely

> register for *anything*> on the web.> > Now, did you post that turd? I bet

> they'll be x-raying the package.> They're watching you... ;)> > > ade.> >

> -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net>

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat> Sent: 17 March

> 2008 18:22> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject:

> Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American> Right> > > A

> shame i wasted my useful time reading that email> i wonder if i could pen

> a patronising bit of drivvel as well> > Who knows, maybe e can get some

> prick to autograph it, though it might> hide behind pseudonyms to give

> itself a false platform of> intelligence.> > ill call it> > "a fart under

> the covers"> > off now, feel a shit coming on. I ll send it somewhere.> >

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist>

> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:> >> > A shame I wasted my useful

> time reading that crap.> > I wonder if I ought to pen a long article about

> that as well!> >> > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom Hodgkinson

> autograph it. Though he'll> > probably use a> > false signature to avoid

> detection... Just in case.... Ya know?> >> > I'll call it> >> > "Angry

> male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises successful> people> >

> who have> > different political views than he does".> >> > Maybe I'll

> submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that they like> to> >

> publish some really crappy articles.> >> >> iPat>

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