[kj] So OT -- Appeasement, 'apeacement,' etc.

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 27 19:34:30 EDT 2008


7 years later it's quickly turning into a game of "Sorry!". (note silo-shaped pieces)


 
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--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] So OT -- Appeasement, 'apeacement,' etc.
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:20 PM








Suppose the idea is that if the aid was dropped then the nasty Chinese and Russians would come in and fill the void, and on the big game of Risk in the White House that they use to teach Bush about “The World” this creates instability in the region.
 
(Or maybe it’s a big game of GO)
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
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To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [kj] So OT -- Appeasement, 'apeacement,' etc.
 




I don't think many people are convinced by the misdirection- I mean, nobody could accuse last year's laughably anticlimactic nuclear test as being part of a *serious* attempt at building a nuclear  arsenal ;)
 
What I find mildly irritating is the occasional assumption that North Korea is a tiny independent state struggling against pressure to become a US satellite and surrounded by US allies (Japan and South Korea)- making it out to be an Asian Cuba if you like, defiantly standing up to the major powers. They don't seem to understand that the US, South Korea and Japan are almost singlehandedly keeping North Korea afloat- suppling 95% of its food and most of its energy too, free of change. It would be much more profitable by far for the US to just go home and leave NK to its fate. These endless negotiations benefit only one country- North Korea (and possibly China too, sincie it stops the entire population of North Korea crossing their northern border en masse).
 
jim

http://www.flipsidemovies.com
http://jimharper.blogspot.com

--- On Fri, 27/6/08, sade1 < saulomar1 at yahoo.com > wrote:

From: sade1 < saulomar1 at yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: [kj] So OT -- Appeasement, 'apeacement,' etc.
To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Date: Friday, 27 June, 2008, 7:01 PM






> intended for one purpose only- as a means of 'encouraging' 

> the USA , South Korea and Japan . . .

 
  Good point, it gets ignored in most of the press [by not clearly stating is as you did]
because it would then make those 3 countries look like the losing suckers in a nucular
blackmail scheme. And by a destitute nation, no less.
 


 

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--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] So OT -- Appeasement, 'apeacement,' etc.
To: "Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:00 AM





The negotiations with North Korea are working because their nuclear capability is intended for one purpose only- as a means of 'encouraging' the USA, South Korea and Japan to hand over the vast amounts of food and energy necessary to prevent NK from collapsing entirely. And it's working.
 
Unfortunately, the policy won't work with Iran . They want a nuclear reactor, and we have nothing they need.
 
Jim.

http://www.flipsidemovies.com
http://jimharper.blogspot.com

--- On Fri, 27/6/08, sade1 < saulomar1 at yahoo.com > wrote:

From: sade1 < saulomar1 at yahoo.com >
Subject: [kj] So OT -- Appeasement, 'apeacement,' etc.
To: "real gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Friday, 27 June, 2008, 3:53 AM





"How do you solve a problem like Korea ?"
If they're doing it with da' NK, um, might it not work elsewhere?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/06/26/north.korea.nuclear/index.html
 
"How do you bomb a country like Iran ?"
 

 

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