[kj] Please notice/Endgame

[Karen Weil]

Uh, that would be one way to describe our fearless leader ...

k.w.
San Diego
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  From: ade 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:16 AM
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  I *always* think of V when the lizard conspiracy raises its' head!

  Personally, I don't think Bush is any of those adjectives - I just think he's playing the game, lining his nest & loving every minute, at the expense of the public. He's everything we expect from a politician.

  I can't defend Icke just because he sometimes points out the obvious !!!!
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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
    Sent: 23 June 2008 12:10
    To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
    Subject: Re: [kj] Please notice/Endgame


    Ever watch that American 80s mini-series called ‘V’? Icke’s lizard gig always reminds me of that. I tend to agree with you on that one, he’s pretty out there, but I’d trust him further than I’d trust Bush.

     

    As Carlin would say, Icke is just FUCKING NUTS. Whereas Bush is STUPID, FULL OF SHIT, and FUCKING NUTS. Bush is the untermensch personified. And Icke is sane enough to point that out at least… 

     


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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
    Sent: Monday, 23 June 2008 10:56 p.m.
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
    Subject: Re: [kj] Please notice/Endgame

     

    Dude, no one with a brain is ever going to pay attention to a fuckwit like David Icke for long. He single-handedly managed to drag conspiracy theories into disrepute over here - he's been nothing but detrimental to the idea that authority abuses power. Fucking lizards, for christ sakes !!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    There's a middle-ground between the idea that's there's 'no such thing as a conspiracy' & 'everything is a conspiracy'. I try to look there. But then, I mistrust all authority, so I'm slanted myself, I guess...

     

    With people like Icke around, no authority should ever fear any real investigation again, all they have to do is conjure the spectre of Icke & his morons, sorry, followers, to easily deflect. He's almost a cult leader - try to check out one of his 'appearances' - youboobs will probably have some. Sychophants abound !!!!  They've probably all been to see The Da Vinci Code several times too. Looking for subliminal messages, the only one being that Tom Hanks oozes boredom.

     

    Icke is an absolute amateur, playing to sycophants, who lap His word up, as if it were *Religion*. A great example of how deities come about though !!!!

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      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Devacor at aol.com
      Sent: 23 June 2008 03:34
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Subject: Re: [kj] Please notice/Endgame

       

      <<<<<<"Endgame is not conspiracy theory, it is documented fact in the elite's own words."

       

            It always amazes me how many secret conspiracies allow information about their true purpose to be leaked to the media. I mean, call me an absolute brain-fried toad-licking imbecile here, but I always thought secrecy was an essential component of any plans for covert world-domination. It's a left-field theory I know, but there we go. If this chappie with the charming little slices of tedious Christian pop has actually hit upon a genuine conspiracy, I have to ask why his website is still up and running. I mean, he's spreading the word on mailing lists, so the Big Bad Guys are sure to know. Why haven't they taken steps? I mean, we've got a *lot* of drooling religious freaks in this part of the world, who's going to notice if one disappears?>>>>
           

       

      This is bit of a continuation of my other email/post. 

       Anyway about 4-5 years ago one of my students (who is a healer and bodyworker) had a client who was in the political realm here and mentioned during one of their sessions he was a freemason- this girl/student of mine is a little bit off in the head (too much weed for too long) and started railing in about him being in the illuminatti etc. He laughed and wanted to know how she knew of all of this- she said "oh

      well Adam" (just great and I rarely talked about it with her anyway- but I guess enough for her to piece together whatever she said to this guy)- So the guy actually wants to personally talk to me further about all of this.

        He actually states to her directly that yes he is involved in sub socities within masonry ("the illuminati" if you want to call it that, but they don't really call it that themselves) but is doing so to try get and be

      close enough to the real power guys (Bush in this case) to sublty try to influence for the better. At the time he was the head of some department and worked directly with Bush. I had a phone conversation or two with the guy, mainly just to set up a situation to personally meet. We never went too into much during the conversations, but would I guess have done so during a personal meeting. 

      It was a little bizzare and exciting at the same time. I did feel a little uneasy as it didn't all make too much sense why he would want to loosely chat like this- so I was waiting for like the bag to go over my head when im walking towards my car at night one night.  

       the california wildfires came up and he had to take off over there for awhile to oversee certain aspects of taking care of that. We lost our communication thread then and I wasn't really so gung ho to reach back out- so that was that- but was more then enough (also with the example/story of my mentor)

      to obvioiusly show me that it all really does go down like this ("the illuminati", etc - whether we care to believe it or not, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 

      Oddly enough a few years ago this same fellow got "pinched" here for stealing some items from a local Target (department store) - some of you may slightly recall this story. - anyway due to this he had to relinqish his positiions and that was the end of this political career. It was odd- it rang a little strange to me.

       Honestly hardly anyone is going to believe all this elite agenda anyway even if they told you right to your face (who wants to believe it anyway, it sucks) - if an alex jones, david icke etc builds some momemntum and gets some of this out there, how many people are they really going to reach and affect? 

       hardly any ,given the percentage of the entire population. - much easier to just let them do their thing, they will receive enough ridicule, they are not percieved to reach enough people to make any difference one way or another- now if you go and off an alex jones or he dissapears, it all of the sudden gives him a lot more credence doesn't it?  This question of "why are these people allowed to go on then.." really needs also to be looked at from this angle if you want to look at it properly. 

        Personally Alex Jones/Endgame is a little much for me, Im not all so into his delivery- I also think he hyperfocuses on certain things and creates a bit of an uncessary lather- but that's just how he is. doesn't mean I discount his material because I cant- just hes not totally my style. 

       Everyone is entitled to their own opinion about all of this of course- and that goes for any topic and subject. Only thing I have an issue with is anyone who wants to state firmly agaisnt something without even looking into things (besides superficially) they are making firm statements about. 

       If someone wants to say "(insert your fave conspiracy researcher) and all his talk is nuts" but not actually spent the time to look through all the research this person is basing their platform on- then I think that's weak. 

      Now if someone wants to say " ya know I dont know too much about it, but I just cant wrap my mind around alex jones, nor do I care to"...then that's different. 

      or of course if one cares  to pour through all the books and material and not be convinced nor believe, then that's their educated opinion. 

      ~Adam

       

      Adam Helfer
      President
      Omkara World
      www.Omkara-World.com
      www.Myspace.com/Adamomkara








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