[kj] OT: First speed metal track of all time

[ade]

Thanks for all the info Ollie - nice one.


> it's one of those "dumb" debates


You've really summed it up there. Often the sort of thing that the people
that play music don't give a fuck about, while the fans go on & on & on,
just to prove how much they know. "I'm a bigger fan that you", etc. As Lydon
said, "Rules are for fools" - as soon as rules, 'laws', or even just terms/labels
start to be applied to music (typically not by the creators of said music),
it all starts to die. All movements start off well & then the shitheads get
involved & ruin them.

Those annoying fans have a negative Midas touch, everything they harp on
about turns to shit - listen to them enough & you just want to hang yourself.

Rules & regulations are the death of creativity, but are a music journalists'
bread & butter.



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[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: 22 June 2008 12:21
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: First speed metal track of all time


Yeah, it's one of those "dumb" debates that can happen in punk, like who 
the first hardcore band was. Bad Brains? No! Middle Class! No! DOA! Etc. 
But there is a Wikipedia entry on what exactly constitutes a "d-beat" 
proper, complete with notation and downloadable sound file last time I 
looked, and it pegged the Buzzcocks as the first to use it, though 
Discharge -- the theory goes -- brought it to prominence because they 
used that same beat so often, on repeat, over and over.

The Swedish band Wolfbrigade had an EP in 2003 called "A D-Beat Odyssey" 
and despite the cheesy title it's actually a pretty decent 
representative of where the modern sub-sub-genre of punk, not a bad 
release at all.

-Oliver


ade wrote:

> Nice one. I guess 'd-beat' is a bit of a misnomer then, unless it's

> just 'cos Discharge made it popular-ish.

>

>   


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