[kj] Congrats Obama

[ade]

Do you think the US should pull out of Iraq, asap ?

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: 04 June 2008 04:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Congrats Obama


It's definitely always a strategic matter of voting for the lesser. With 
Obama the US has a chance to join the rest of the industrialized world 
and have universal health coverage. McCain wants to privatize it EVEN 
MORE than it is. Also, the two do have substantial differences over Iraq.

Australia just pulled out of Iraq a couple of days ago.

The US hangs on - just like it hangs on to stuff like the death penalty, 
privatized for-profit health coverage that leaves 47 million uninsured, 
allowing private bounty hunters to collect on bail (I recently learned 
this was another unique, Wild West-style Americanism that few other 
countries utilize -- in the US any yahoo can go take a class for several 
weeks and then get certified to become a bounty hunter and legally enter 
peoples' homes, stun them, apprehend them, take them into prison if they 
miss bail payments).

Also, I think with Obama at the masthead the world might like the US an 
iota better than McCain, who voted with Bush 95% of the time last year. 
Int'l goodwill would bode well for terrorist type threats, as in making 
them less likely.

I'll be voting for Obama, but I'll be holding my nose, sure. Even McCain 
would be better than Bush, but Obama would actually be several shades 
even better than that.

-Oliver



T.B. wrote:

> IMO, all three (well, now two) major candidates (Clinton, Obama and 

> McCain) are equally terrible choices, each with plenty of negatives 

> and few positives.  In Obama's case, he's basically a snake oil 

> salesman peddling "change" to plenty of po-faced wide eyed people but 

> he really has little substance behind his rhetoric.

>

>

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