[kj] [OT] Centenery

[sade1]

> Am I a baddie for working at a bank?


   Nah, not if you're not a 'shot-caller' there making decisions 
that hurt others. One can always tell, on a personal level, when 
what one's doing is harshly affecting others. 
 

> the biggest most fuckest companies are full of perfectly

> normal nice compassionate people.

 
  Veddy veddy true, but in the end niceness** still can't absolve someone 
who's involved in harmful or immoral practices. That said i of course wouldn't 
hold a secretary responsible for the CEO's policies, or even for a midlevel 
analyst's decisions.
  Am NOT saying any given corporate employee automatically IS 
responsible, am just saying that if/as one is and to the extent that one 
is, being an otherwise great/sweet/compassionate lady or gent doesn't 
redeem or absolve them in any way. 
 
   And in that movie "The Corporation," there's that final description 
that pretty much spells out how corporations are a projection of the 
host society - and society is a projection of the host population, ad infinitum...
...i dunno anymore.. it's late here.......
 
**Reinhard Heydrich (chief of Gestapo) used to 
   have violin "jam-sessions" with his Abwehr 
   counterpart Canaris (or, his wife?) during regular 
   pleasant sunday barbeque parties.... Karadzic 
   practiced alternative medicine on patients 
   during his hiding... Hannibal Lecter was a patron 
   of fine classical music, etc.etc...
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things]

'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
   I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'   

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:01 PM

I'm not so sure about that...in the doco The Corrporation they point out
that a lot of the biggest most fuckest companies are full of perfectly
normal nice compassionate people. Am I a baddie for working at a bank?

Tough question. (Not the one about me, that's easy, I'm a bona-fide
wanker
;p)


>> ...harvest time is a form of mass-production.

>  

> Mass-GATHERING. 8P

>  

>    And besides, all this lip about blaming 'systems, processes,

etc.'.. if

> it's shorthand for 'the real perpetrators' then ok, but if the

> blaming stalls there (systems,etc.) then everyone

> involved is responsible for losing sight of the ball and allowing the

> [human] perpetrators to

> get away, each and every time.

>  

>  

> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>

> [looking at the current state of things]

>

> 'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'  

>

> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>

> From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:30 AM

>

>

>

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>

> I guess it's all about what is being mass produced. You could argue

that

> harvest time is a form of mass-production.

>  

> It was about before Ford, anyway..

>

>  

>  -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> Behalf Of folk devil

> Sent: 23 July 2008 19:24

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery

>

>

> my issue is with mass production systems.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:22:50 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery

>

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> Aliens beemed me...ok slight flaw to my beliefs, but hey we're all in

the

> same boat ;)

>

>

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:13:11 +0100

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery

>

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>

> Yeah, how did you get over there to the US folky? Did you swim, or did you

> use one of those EVIL aeroplanes/boats ?

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> Behalf Of folk devil

> Sent: 23 July 2008 19:07

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery

>

> I think the idea behind the Model T was a very bad thing.

>

> "

>

> From: karen.weil at sddt.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:00:42 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Centenery

>

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>

> Folk devil:

>  

> No, you don't. The car itself is not a bad thing. Unfortunately,

instead

> allowing higher-fuel models on roads, the oil companies (and their dupes

> in Congress)  have done everything in their foolish power to stop that.

> And now, the bill has come due -- in more ways than one.

>  

> Groetjes,

>  

> k.w.

>  

>  

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: folk devil

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:35 AM

> Subject: [kj] [OT] Centenery

>

> The Model T was introduced 100 years ago, today.

> F*ck you Henry Ford, for this flexible, accumulative mess you gave us.

> I think we should also rename the great exhibition as the great industrial

> catstrophy.

> Crap, I sound like a luddite.

>

>

> "talk about alternative fuels...not something that's going to be

> completely exhausted in 10 years."

>

>

>

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