[kj] School daze

[Brendan]

Haha, I dunno whether that's cute or retarded...it could be a nice little
day for them, dunno?


>

> Hi, Brendan:

>

> Great points; I'm inclined with you. For instance, my 5-year-old cousin

> had

> a graduation ceremony from kindergarten! While I can understand the

> acknowledgement, I find it a bit odd.

> (Perhaps it's sour grapes on my part, as there were certainly no

> "graduation

> ceremonies" when I was in grade school!)

>

> k.w.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:28 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

>

>

>> People, even kids, know when they are being patronised. Was reading an

>> article about a study that showed that kids who are regularly lauded for

>> 'effort' and 'trying hard', all that shit, well basically it has a

>> negative effect. Kids KNOW that performance and achievement is

>> important,

>> all that smiley glad-hands treatment, giving kids certificates for

>> turning

>> up to school twice in a row on time or not drooling over themselves

>> today...it's crap, and we're gonna end up breeding a population of

>> hapless, entitled cretins.

>>

>> I suppose often it's got the right intentions behind it, but we all know

>> the saying about the road to hell. Or was that an AC/DC song...?

>>

>> As a bit of a slow learner and awkward kid at school, what I actually

>> appreciated was some one-on-on with a patient teacher who took the time

>> to

>> go through what I was having difficulty with, in a way tailored to how I

>> learned, away from the spotlight of other kids who were already good at

>> it. My reward was the achievement, then the good press from the teacher

>> or

>> family or peers was genuine.

>>

>>> Mr. Okereke is also gay; either stuff.co.nz and Lydon's thuggish

>>> "associates" are unaware of this (I am not aware of Mr Okereke's

>>> uniform

>>> of

>>> choice being a glittery spandex catsuit and spaceman's helmet) or they

>>> had

>>> to concede that his being black was merely a more apparent target.

>>>

>>> I have also met many people who have attempted to take advantage of

>>> what

>>> their behaviour implies they regard as a stigma; I'm equal

>>> opportunities,

>>> me

>>> - I'll be offensive to anyone who's offensive, regardless of their

>>> hangups.

>>> Did a lot of work with mentally & physically handicapped a few years

>>> back

>>> -

>>> they actively encouraged me to call them spackas (incidentally, great

>>> use

>>> of

>>> "spacka" in "Control", I thought). I concluded they were generally

>>> tired

>>> of

>>> the opposite treatment - the patronising deference.

>>>

>>> Darren

>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>

>>> NB My oldest friend, and recently my best man, is a Gaylord, so there's

>>> no

>>> agenda here.

>>>

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>> On

>>> Behalf Of ade

>>> Sent: 22 July 2008 12:33

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

>>> Importance: High

>>>

>>> Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his

>>> car

>>> overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it

>>> out.

>>> He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was

>>> embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It

>>> was

>>> just a conversation about car woes.

>>>

>>> At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously

>>> as

>>> to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

>>>

>>> It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a

>>> race-card

>>> playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my

>>> lefty friends don't believe exist.

>>>

>>> Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of

>>> Lydon.

>>> Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt

>>> fashion, but was that John? We shall see...

>>>

>>>

>>> ade.

>>>

>>> PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED

>>> RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days.

>>> INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!

>>>

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