[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[ade]

Yeah man, when will people realise that normaltons couldn't care less about this stuff 'til it affects their bank balances! Over here, we're taxed to fuck on fuel. Now that those base fuel prices are increasing, obviously increasing the tax subsequently, people are suddenly giving a shit about environmental stuff. Of course, the past twenty years didn't matter because it wasn't really affecting Joe Public ;)

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil
Sent: 23 July 2008 18:53
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


You got that right, pal ...
Wish there were a utopia, but no such luck! ; )

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mik Raven" <mikraven at o2.co.uk>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims



> It's a nice dream that can never work in reality. People are too greedy 

> and

> the ones who get to run the place too power hungry (or why else would they

> want the job?). And who would do the crappy jobs that nobody wants to do 

> but

> still need doing in this utopia.

>

> When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an

> application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and

> experience!

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:45

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

>

> I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

>

> So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves

> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,

> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you

> know the world keeps turning...

>

> So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can

> be pretty shitty.

>

> Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role

> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a

> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

>

> Please, tell me of you utopian dream.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:28

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

>

>

> is the equal opportunities line another way of saying thet you are

> going to brainwash people into a work ethic that whilst giving them

> momentary rewards (money to buy food, achohol and posessions) simply

> serves to feed the machine that serves the rich, pollutes the world

> and perpetuates the myth so ellegantly portrayed by Orwell?

>

> Whatever you do, by being in the zone at that moment is living and

> therefore equality is irrelevant because living is all thats

> important. Whether a brickie or a musician are equal is irrelevant as

> its someone elses measure that is imposing itself as a value to which

> we should obey.

>

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> I'm all for giving everyone equal opportunities, damn straight! But 

>> giving

>> everyone an A is clearly not going to change a damn thing, other than to

>> make things worse!

>>

>> The other side of this is that if you & a bricky are 'equal' as is the

> idea

>> of this rubbish, then the bricky can go teach classical music, surely?

> Well,

>> he's equally qualified, so why not? We're all equal after, aren't we? Or

> is

>> it that everyone is different & socialists can't cope with that reality?

>>

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