[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

melinda grant hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 23 12:25:53 EDT 2008



you said you were considering politics mik,perhaps me and ade can help you canvess ;D))))


> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:08:51 +0100> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > I have at least 12 months during my 20's & yeah, it a fucking scrimp-fest. Should've got the mrs preggers at the time, innit...> > I think it's important to point out that I'm very close to the people I criticise in the so-called 'working class' or (self-made) 'underclass', so I can talk from experience, rather than some patronising Gaurdian reader from some leafy neighbourhood who hasn't a fucking clue.> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven> Sent: 23 July 2008 17:04> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > > I have 6 years experience of full time unemployment back in my 20s. Not> quite the same as getting a good salary for doing nothing though. I would> miss all the little luxuries in life going back to that now. Looks like> politics for me then! Lol> > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: 23 July 2008 17:00> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > > When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an> application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and> experience!> > Found it! It's either a matter of having been on the dole over the last> decade, or becoming a politician !> > Now someone please say I'm picking on 'vulnerable' people by mentioning the> full-time dolies !!! The same full-time dolies who bitch about foreigners> coming over here stealing their jobs (LOL!), without thinking (shock/horror)> about the reason why the foreign workforce was required in the first place!> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:50> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > > It's a nice dream that can never work in reality. People are too greedy and> the ones who get to run the place too power hungry (or why else would they> want the job?). And who would do the crappy jobs that nobody wants to do but> still need doing in this utopia.> > When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an> application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and> experience!> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:45> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!> > So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you> know the world keeps turning...> > So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can> be pretty shitty.> > Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?> > Please, tell me of you utopian dream.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:28> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > > is the equal opportunities line another way of saying thet you are> going to brainwash people into a work ethic that whilst giving them> momentary rewards (money to buy food, achohol and posessions) simply> serves to feed the machine that serves the rich, pollutes the world> and perpetuates the myth so ellegantly portrayed by Orwell?> > Whatever you do, by being in the zone at that moment is living and> therefore equality is irrelevant because living is all thats> important. Whether a brickie or a musician are equal is irrelevant as> its someone elses measure that is imposing itself as a value to which> we should obey.> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:> > I'm all for giving everyone equal opportunities, damn straight! But giving> > everyone an A is clearly not going to change a damn thing, other than to> > make things worse!> >> > The other side of this is that if you & a bricky are 'equal' as is the> idea> > of this rubbish, then the bricky can go teach classical music, surely?> Well,> > he's equally qualified, so why not? We're all equal after, aren't we? Or> is> > it that everyone is different & socialists can't cope with that reality?> >> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1567 - Release Date: 7/22/2008> 4:05 PM> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1567 - Release Date: 7/22/2008> 4:05 PM> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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