[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[ade]

I have at least 12 months during my 20's & yeah, it a fucking scrimp-fest. Should've got the mrs preggers at the time, innit...

I think it's important to point out that I'm very close to the people I criticise in the so-called 'working class' or (self-made) 'underclass', so I can talk from experience, rather than some patronising Gaurdian reader from some leafy neighbourhood who hasn't a fucking clue.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven
Sent: 23 July 2008 17:04
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


I have 6 years experience of full time unemployment back in my 20s. Not
quite the same as getting a good salary for doing nothing though. I would
miss all the little luxuries in life going back to that now. Looks like
politics for me then! Lol


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: 23 July 2008 17:00
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


> When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an

application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and
experience!

Found it! It's either a matter of having been on the dole over the last
decade, or becoming a politician !

Now someone please say I'm picking on 'vulnerable' people by mentioning the
full-time dolies !!! The same full-time dolies who bitch about foreigners
coming over here stealing their jobs (LOL!), without thinking (shock/horror)
about the reason why the foreign workforce was required in the first place!

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven
Sent: 23 July 2008 16:50
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


It's a nice dream that can never work in reality. People are too greedy and
the ones who get to run the place too power hungry (or why else would they
want the job?). And who would do the crappy jobs that nobody wants to do but
still need doing in this utopia.

When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an
application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and
experience!

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: 23 July 2008 16:45
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves
of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,
I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you
know the world keeps turning...

So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can
be pretty shitty.

Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role
if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a
whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

Please, tell me of you utopian dream.


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat
Sent: 23 July 2008 16:28
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


is the equal opportunities line another way of saying thet you are
going to brainwash people into a work ethic that whilst giving them
momentary rewards (money to buy food, achohol and posessions) simply
serves to feed the machine that serves the rich, pollutes the world
and perpetuates the myth so ellegantly portrayed by Orwell?

Whatever you do, by being in the zone at that moment is living and
therefore equality is irrelevant because living is all thats
important. Whether a brickie or a musician are equal is irrelevant as
its someone elses measure that is imposing itself as a value to which
we should obey.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm all for giving everyone equal opportunities, damn straight! But giving

> everyone an A is clearly not going to change a damn thing, other than to

> make things worse!

>

> The other side of this is that if you & a bricky are 'equal' as is the

idea

> of this rubbish, then the bricky can go teach classical music, surely?

Well,

> he's equally qualified, so why not? We're all equal after, aren't we? Or

is

> it that everyone is different & socialists can't cope with that reality?

>

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