[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[Karen Weil]

Sure as hell sounds like it! There must be a fan club, somewhere! ; )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ade 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:17 PM
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  Yeah, it's quite a statement in the UK!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil
    Sent: 23 July 2008 01:12
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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    Wow, some folk really take their newspaper to heart, no?  ; )

    k.w.
    the States 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: ade 
      To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
      Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:20 PM
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      PHEW! Yeah, I live in Langey, innit. Down by the train station, so yeah, you're just 'round the corner & a bit!

      GROLIES = Guardian Readers Of Low Intelligence in Ethnic Skirts. Love it!
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        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mike Cooper
        Sent: 23 July 2008 00:15
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        What's a grolie?  

        Only joking just a simple Council employee me!  Do live in Smethwick - aren't we nearly neighbours?
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: ade 
          To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
          Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:56 PM
          Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


          Oh do you indeed! I bet you hate the colour of your hands when you see them every morning,
          just wishing you had some 'culture' instead of just being plain old ignorant whitey.

          Double-standards rubbish for GROLIES.
            -----Original Message-----
            From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mike Cooper
            Sent: 22 July 2008 23:37
            To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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            I live in Smethwick and write for the Guardian!  
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: ade 
              To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
              Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:18 PM
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              Nice one - yep, I don't think there are any Guardian writers here, just 'round the corner from
              Smethwick - of course I'm here, but what the fuck do I know, I only live here? ;)

              Those knob-heads patronise at length, while they go home to their nice houses/hoods...
                -----Original Message-----
                From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of sade1
                Sent: 22 July 2008 23:03
                To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
                Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


                         Racism doesn't exist, it is a fig'leaf of your imagination. And notice how deniers 

                      usually live/work/play further and further away from an actual representative sampling 

                      of the society they're trying to purif' *erm* 'help'?

                        Starts to look like a car mechanic working under the hood (sorry, 'bonnet') while the owner is forcing his "backseat driver" diagnoses on the mechanic. 





                      ... ... ... ... ... ... 

                      [looking at the current state of things]

                      'Save me...
                        save me from Tomorrow..
                         I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'   


                      --- On Tue, 7/22/08, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

                        From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
                        Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims
                        To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
                        Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 4:32 AM


Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his car
overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out.
He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was
embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It
was just a conversation about car woes.

At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as
to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card
playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my lefty
friends don't believe exist.

Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of Lydon.
Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt fashion,
but was that John? We shall see...


ade.

PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED
RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these
days. INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!



-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 22 July 2008 10:05
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


I quite like Bloc Party in an angular, I'm aware of the beat combo known as
Gang Of Four m'lud, but with mildly irritating vocals, sort of way. They
have gone down in my estimation as a result of this, however; smacks too
much of publicity-seeking to me. I really don't understand why it's
inappropriate for someone to have a "black" attitude to anything;
it's
entirely possible to have a Christian, or Welsh, or male attitude, so why
not a black one? All of these are generalisations, but since when is making
generalisations verboten? Pleased they illustrated the article with such a
neutral picture of Mr Lydon, though.

Even the article makes clear that anything even whiffing mildly of racism
came from Lydon's "associates" rather than from him. Good on them
for
punching Ricky Wilson, too.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: 22 July 2008 09:35
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

Oh dear. I don't know Bloc Party from a bar of soap really but this sounds
bad...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4627133a1860.html



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