[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

Darren A. Peace dpeace at bigfoot.com
Tue Jul 22 18:55:54 EDT 2008


(crosses self)



Darren

Hungerford, UK



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Mike Cooper
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:37
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims



I live in Smethwick and write for the Guardian!

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From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>

To: A list about <mailto:gathering at misera.net> all things Killing Joke (the
band!)

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:18 PM

Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims



Nice one - yep, I don't think there are any Guardian writers here, just
'round the corner from

Smethwick - of course I'm here, but what the fuck do I know, I only live
here? ;)



Those knob-heads patronise at length, while they go home to their nice
houses/hoods...

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of sade1
Sent: 22 July 2008 23:03
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


Racism doesn't exist, it is a fig'leaf of your imagination. And notice
how deniers

usually live/work/play further and further away from an actual
representative sampling

of the society they're trying to purif' *erm* 'help'?

Starts to look like a car mechanic working under the hood (sorry,
'bonnet') while the owner is forcing his "backseat driver" diagnoses on the
mechanic.





... ... ... ... ... ...


[looking at the current state of things]


'Save me...

save me from Tomorrow..

I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'



--- On Tue, 7/22/08, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 4:32 AM

Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his car
overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out.
He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was
embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It
was just a conversation about car woes.

At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as
to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card
playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my
lefty
friends don't believe exist.

Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of Lydon.
Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt
fashion,
but was that John? We shall see...


ade.

PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED
RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these
days. INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!



-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 22 July 2008 10:05
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


I quite like Bloc Party in an angular, I'm aware of the beat combo known as
Gang Of Four m'lud, but with mildly irritating vocals, sort of way. They
have gone down in my estimation as a result of this, however; smacks too
much of publicity-seeking to me. I really don't understand why it's
inappropriate for someone to have a "black" attitude to anything;
it's
entirely possible to have a Christian, or Welsh, or male attitude, so why
not a black one? All of these are generalisations, but since when is making
generalisations verboten? Pleased they illustrated the article with such a
neutral picture of Mr Lydon, though.

Even the article makes clear that anything even whiffing mildly of racism
came from Lydon's "associates" rather than from him. Good on them
for
punching Ricky Wilson, too.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: 22 July 2008 09:35
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

Oh dear. I don't know Bloc Party from a bar of soap really but this sounds
bad...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4627133a1860.html



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