[kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back

[The Exorcist]

Pass it on brother. I'm all up for reading a bit.

At 09:38 PM 7/16/2008, Brendan wrote:

>A lot of ppl are after tha 'best' ab exercise...I do a range of 10-15 or

>so different exercises (most done on the floor with bodyweight or perhaps

>a medicine ball for external resistance) over the course of a 3-month or

>so program, also modifying the volume, intensity, prioritisation, and

>tempo, along a continuum going from light, isolated, slow movements at the

>beginning, to harder, quicker, more compound movements towards the end of

>the program. A single exercise and single set / rep scheme is sub-optimal,

>and will in fact lead to muslce imbalances over time.

>

>The exercise you mention is an absolute killer, but it's a compromise. It

>works the upper abs and hip flexors simultaneously, the nervous system is

>also taxed initially because it has to learn a relatively complex movement

>involving balancing the body while performing two different joint flexions

>patterns...you're flexing the trunk and also flexing at the hip. But

>because you're doing two joint movements simultaneously, there are some

>advantages and some disadvantages. Mixed training = mixed results, as they

>say. There is very little rotation, side flexion, and no real postural

>recruitment. No exercise provides all that. Yoga and Pilates do however,

>as performed undre a good teacher.

>

>I just wrote a big spiel on ab training and back pain, lost it when I went

>to put on some music on this PC, will re-do it sometime if anyone is

>interested. Basically though, go to Pilates or Yoga because they are

>great, I've done both and both have helped with back pain and more :) But

>ab training is probably at most 25% of lower back injury prevention /

>rehab...you also need to consider stretching, massage, posture, nutrition

>/ hydration, assymetrical activities, mindset / stress, etc...

>

> >   What are those situps called where you do a crunch while pulling your

> > knees up

> > to your stomach? Supposed to be the best thing ever...

> >

> >

> > ... ... ... ... ... ...

> > (looking at the current state of things)

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> > 'Save me..

> >  save me from Tomorrow..

> >  I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'

> >

> > --- On Wed, 7/16/08, folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 8:14 AM

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> > strengthen your abs first, otherwise your back is always going to give you

> > grief..

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> > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:56:50 -0400

> > From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: Poll

> >

> > Had back issues for a long long time. I did cut down on my biking since I

> > started handball.

> > Only did 20 miles today earlier (Had time off in the afternoon). Then

> > handball at night for 1 hour.

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