[kj] Killing Joke and the U.S.

fluke fluke fluke1 at live.co.uk
Thu Feb 28 16:26:10 EST 2008



Saddam was playing games, he allowed the inspectors in...then he stopped them from entering and then he kept changing his mind.
Saddam then got a final ultimatum : let the weapons inspectors in by a certain date or the Gulf war will continue , Saddam still refused to open up his Country to weapons inspectors by that date and so the war continued .
What Saddam did and what he said were two different things . He was given a date by which he had to let the inspectors in , he didn't allow them in by that date . The fate was sealed .


Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:50:37 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke and the U.S.
I shall refer to you as "duran duran" from this point on....

Saddam Hussein was interviewed on the CBS network's news show "60 Minutes" jsut before the invasion, when he offered an open unlimited invitation to the U.N. inspectors to return forthwith and search to their little hearts' content.
No. Bush withdrew the inspectors.
Boom.....
sumthin' close to that.
fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:


But the war WASNT illegal. The first Gulf wars ceasefire agreement signed by Saddam stated that for a ceasefire to happen Saddam must agree to let U.N. weapons inspectors in to inspect anywhere they like in Iraq . If Saddam refused them entry, then the ceasefire will be scrapped and the war will continue....Saddam refused to let the weapons inspectors in........and so the war continued . The Gulf war was legitimate and that makes you Oliver guilty of treason against your own country and treason in the U.K. carries the death penalty. You people who support Iraq are no better than the Nazi sympathisers in American during WW2 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:27:22 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke and the U.S.> > Yeah, okay, so you haven't read my posts. Not all the Nazis' war command > was hanged for GENOCIDE. Theyw ere hanged for WAR CRIMES. The two can > overlap but are not necessarily the same. The Nuremberg Principles state > that if ones country is involved in an illegal war, citizens and > soldiers have not just a right but a DUTY to resist it. A few US troops > have gone AWOL and have become objectors of conscience, but many go off > and do it anyway.> > To initiate a war of aggression ... is not only an international crime, > it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war > crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."> > -- International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, Germany, 1946> > This is what nazis were tried for -- initating a war of aggression. the > genocide, etc., was also part of the case against some Nazis but not all > of them. many were put on trial simply for initiating or being complicit > in invading France, Poland, etc. It is exactly comparable to what the US > has done to Iraq, a nation on the other side of the planet that posed no > threat to it, nd which did not attack it.> > Back to KJ, Stubb's BBQ, SXSW (March) 2009. Pretty clear and easy. Could > be a one-off gig, would do wonders for KJ's publicity.> > -Oliver> > fluke fluke wrote:> > "that US troops, for example, ough o e subjet to th Nuremberg Laws > > that led to Nazis> > being hanged,"> > > > This is just plain stupid . Although the Gathering isn't the place > > to discuss it.> > But there you go again making stupid nonsensical comparisons . The > > Nazis leadership , the leadership and not the troops were hanged for > > the genocide of up to six million people and other War crimes during WW2.> > How can you logically compare the Leaders of Nazi Germany who > > orchestrated the deaths of Six million people with U.S troops > > following orders in the legitimate war in Iraq?> > You simply , logically, cannot compare the two> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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