[kj] ) OT I love you to everyone...

jon chapman jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk
Mon Feb 25 08:07:44 EST 2008



ha ha !!! here we go again!!!!!!!!!!



Well you are wrong there Alex, Killing Joke were part of the New Wave genre and not the Punk genre , so if you were to discuss the origins of New Wave, then that would have something to do with the impetus of this list , but sadly, discussing the origins of Punk is............OFF-TOPIC and nothing at all to do with this list . New Wave wasn't a continuation or Punk either, it was a reaction to it.



From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:56:00 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] ) OT I love you to everyone...
At least discussing the origins of Punk has *FUCKING SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE IMPETUS OF THIS LIST*

Alex in NYC



On Feb 25, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:



Yeah, how many times do we have to hear who started punk in the UK? *Napoleon Dynamite: “GOSH!”*





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 5:16 p.m.To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] ) OT I love you to everyone...


How can we know...



I've been here since the 20th century ('98 or so..cassettes, glowsticks, Dee-Lite,

raves, etc.) when Gatherers and gathering were over at UBL so I know for a fact these

kinds of shenanigans and inanity have always (& in all ways) existed here, both read

and written by everyone here,** and rarely ( as in, rarely) did anyone really object, even

when it got bad (racism, personal attacks, pro-Bush opinions, etc.)...



...and, it's hard (next to impossible,really) to tell when some thread will go off and really

stray - until way after it's done so, so:

where can we draw The Line? that is, without intimidating creative and free speech. Hm..

..how can we (individually) predict the future quality and future trajectory of a given thread?

Hm... I don't know.



(and no i haven't forgotten that the number of Jokers here has at least tripled since KJ-2003,

and that more and more people are accessing their internetss on the go thru laptops,

cellphones, computers at work, Blackberrys, etc.)



Something I find does work for me is that if i can trust the message titles to be in tune

with the message, if people properly title their messages and change or add to that title as

the subject/s of the messages change, then we can all feel confident in deleting [on sight]

a thread of no interest.

For example, I personally don't care about the "btats remasters" so i delete entire threads

of it [no offense to those who do care for btats remasters], and when a title reflects a change

in subject, that also helps me decide to read or delete.



Also, and this is a long long shot, maybe if the board can be reformatted to show individual postings in sequential order, would that help? Because recently i've been getting lots of messages hours or even days after someone's posted it, or messages are posted twice (no not just Mel's).



Anyway, my two cents' worth.



** how many frekqin' times do we

have to hear who started punk where?

I rest my case.



"T.B." <Partyslammer at socal.rr.com> wrote:

"jo" wrote:> Aw don't inhibit people. It's cool to 'hear' Gatherers speaking freely.I have to chime in. Quick back n' forth nonsensical stuff like 95% of what's shown up here the past few days here really belong in someplace like IRC or some chat room. I'm all for off-topic posts but after 50+ one-sentence messages in a couple hour's time, it just becomes wasted bandwidth. I get all my mail mirrored on my Blackberry and it's a fucking pain in the ass to have to individually delete hundreds of useless posts that accumulate in just a day's time. And I'm sure I'm not the only subscriber that storing, deleting and sifting through junk e-mail is more than a simple matter of "skip what you don't want to read."Think of it as a simple courtesy to your fellow list members.
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