[kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke

Mik mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk
Thu Feb 21 18:30:11 EST 2008


I didn't realise it was am exam. Lol





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 21 February 2008 23:26
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke



Blaming abuse in childhood does not wash with me, after all, I never went
down that route.



A case study (of yourself) carries more weight or invalidates statistics
across a broad group.? I have to instantly fail your paper on that one sorry
Mik, even if you use a histogram.



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Mik
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 11:57 a.m.
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke



Why can't sex or porn be work? Let me try to think what the oldest
profession is.. Lol. Religious values have got involved that tell us sex is
a bad thing or has to be kept in secret. God forbid if you went to work and
started chatting about the fantastic sex you had the night before. Lol. I'm
not saying people do not get exploited or come to harm, or even that all
have the choice, although at some point they made the decision in most
cases. Blaming abuse in childhood does not wash with me, after all, I never
went down that route.



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of jo
Sent: 21 February 2008 22:52
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke



I would imagine that the nature of sex is different to the nature of.. work
etc...



Wouldn't it be nice if anything in life was easy. Unfortunately people get
exploited in all industries. Think of the kids working in sweat shops to
make the cheap clothes we all buy. Why single out the sex industry as being
any worse than any other?




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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of jo
Sent: 21 February 2008 22:36
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke



With respect, there is a downside. Many, many people are exploited by the
sex industry - not including those who are against their will. You can
understand why people draw a line against it.

Not just those who've been involved in producing it but those who've been
abused as a result of the product.

Wouldn't it be nice if it was easy.







Saying the fucking least. Can a woman not be powerful in her sexuality?
Clearly not.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Mik
Sent: 21 February 2008 21:50
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke

Speaking from personal experience I think that is too much of an over
generalisation.




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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Devacor at aol.com
Sent: 21 February 2008 21:41
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Porn Star Sasha Grey fan of Killing Joke



In a message dated 2/21/2008 4:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk writes:

well i think she is beautiful and has the guts to do what she wants to
do,even if that is not to everyones likeing and she certainly has great
taste in music,good for her ;)!!

milinda

I have a close friend who is a dancer/stripper and have had dealings w those
in the adult entertainment industry.

A female involved in any of that has usually (90 % or higher) been either
molested/raped as a child or teen, abortions, physically/,mentally abused,
drug/alcohol issues, esteem issues or a nice little cocktail of all that.
With all that comes apathy and disassociation which you need a hefty dose of
to be in any of those industries.

"doing what she wants to do"- well I can tell you this, if they outwardly
tell you otherwise catch them at the right time and push the right buttons
you will find none of them are doing what they want to do. You gotta really
convince yourself that you are to some level, but that can only go so deep.


also "doing what she wants to do" - well a heroin addict is doing what they
want to do- a child molester is doing what they want to do, etc etc.








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