[kj] When Goths Cry... middle class, working class ... it's all a load of ...

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Thu Feb 21 00:17:09 EST 2008


Loads of Kiwis left and right are baying for tax cuts as we have a surplus
for the first time in ages, at the same time they seem to not notice the
paradox as they constantly complain about the state of the roads, power
supply, health / mental health services, police force, etc…it’s bizarre.



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
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Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry... middle class,working class ... it's all
a load of ...



It's the toffs in "average middle class" working guy's clothing (a la David
Cameron) I object to ... Old Etonians, born to rule ... then again, even
under a Labour government that I craved for, the divide between rich and
poor seems to have got ever wider ... despite the many positive aspects of a
centre-left government, there still seems to be an illusion of democracy
(what with dodgy dossiers and pandering to big business) ... no wonder many
of the young-un's couldn't give a shit ... and even if they do, they are
probably materialistic and self-centred, so likely to vote for someone
dangling the same old carrots such as tax cuts ... what sort of career
prospects do many have ... a fast-food serving career path or drugs and
petty crime ... so, sorry, going off tangent a bit, middle class ? What am I
? Well, for all my centre left leanings, our family was probably lower
middle class ... my parents never went down the pub and didn't go to bingo
!!! Relatively poor compared with the working class family who lived next
door, who seemed to possess all the mod cons ... I don't think class really
is an issue for folks anymore, the lines are so blurred, most people are
somewhere in the middle ...



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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:49 PM

Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...



Difficult to say - that quote applies here as well Probably easier to say
who isn't:



chavs

Ade
errr...
that's it


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So, what is middle-class, according to Europeans and U.K.eans?

I live in the United States and here "everybone is 'middle-class'."**



**anyone remember this quote from

the film "Gods And Monsters"?

HYPERLINK "mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com"jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:

Phew, that's a relief!



Yes, I'm prejudiced - and I've yet to meet anyone who isn't (which I suspect
is what you were getting at). For me, the question is how we deal with our
prejudices and how they affect our interation with the rest of the world.



And can I just check whether you are middle class? <grin>


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Nothing, I'm just prejudiced. Now tell you're not.



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As the masters rot on walls
And the angels eat their grapes
I watched picasso
visit the planet of the apes


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