[kj] "Bert, hey Bert? Are you asleep Bert?"

[Mik]

As the pub landlord says:

If we didn't have rules, where would we be? - FRANCE

If we had too many rules where would we be? - GERMANY

Lol.



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
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Sent: 12 February 2008 21:21
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Subject: Re: [kj] "Bert, hey Bert? Are you asleep Bert?"

Who needs rulebooks for something that threw out the rules?

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[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 12 February 2008 21:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] "Bert, hey Bert? Are you asleep Bert?"



AARRGGHHH --- Oliver, you know I'm just bustin' your chops, but I  
always found the "rules and regulations" of Punk/Hardcore to be such a  
major turnoff.

I remember seeing Redd Kross open for D.O.A. and the Circle Jerks at  
the old Ritz on 11th street. They came out in platform heels and  
feather boas with long, long hair and played a medley from "Jesus  
Christ Superstar". All the "punks" in the crowd were throwing ironic  
devil horns (this was about `85) and flipping them off. Then they  
busted into "Linda Blair" and everyone forgot about the length of  
their hair and their stupid clothes.

In terms of having two drummers (or, for that matter, two bass players  
or any other seemingly excessive combination), what could be more punk  
than FLAGRANTLY FLAUNTING ORTHODOXY BY BREAKING THE CONVENTIONAL BAND  
ARRANGEMENT?


Alex in NYC



On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:58 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:


> I can't remember if it was here we/someone had a tongue-in-cheek  

> convo about all the unwritten rules of punk --

>

> Like, if you're in a punk band, you are NOT allowed to wear your own  

> band's shirt on stage, unless you are Motorhead or the Ramones, in  

> which case it is okay. Also, if you are carpooling to a show, and  

> you're wearing a kind of obscure-ish band's shirt, and suddenly you  

> pick up another guy/gal, and by coincidence that person is wearing  

> the exact same shirt you already have on, then that person must go  

> back in and change their shirt immediately.

>

> Another might be dressing in all black while at the same stating it  

> doesn't matter how you look to be a punk, it only matters on what's  

> the inside -- but I'll dress like all the other punks anyway, etc.  

> There were some others but I forgot'em all. Two full sets of drums  

> side by side seems a bit excessive to me, though...

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

> Alexander Smith wrote:

>>

>> Why should the amount of drummers be considered "un-punk"???  

>> Because .38 Special had two? Is that why it bothers you?

>>

>> THROW OUT YOUR RULE-BOOK, OLIVER!!!!  :)

>>

>> Alex in NYC

>>

>>

>>

>> On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:34 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>

>>> Here's something I always found odd: Towards their end, Fugazi  

>>> began using two, yes, count'em, TWO, drummers at their  

>>> performances. Very un-punk. Almost as un-punk as having a beard!

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRGoYHHNmwQ

>>>

>>>

>>> I like the song -- but two big ol' drum kits like they're White  

>>> Snake or something? blasphemous....

>>>

>>> -Oliver

>>

>

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