[kj] [RE] OT~ sleep paralysis?

[Brendan Quinn]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

This bit's particularly interesting:

In Hmong culture, sleep paralysis describes an experience called "dab tsog"
or "crushing demon" from the compound phrase "dab" (demon) and "tsog"
(crush). Often the sufferer claims to be able to see a tiny figure, no
larger than a child, sitting on his or her chest. What is alarming is that a
vast number of American Hmong, mainly males, have died in their sleep
prompting the Centers for Disease Control to create the term "Sudden
Unexpected Nocturnal Death Syndrome" or "SUNDS" for short.


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Subject: Re: [kj] [RE] OT~ sleep paralysis?

could be a seizure also



> Creepy indeed! I've listen about that a lot, some friends have experienced

the

> same, and everybody agrees that it's a very scary sensation. Here in

Mexico most of

> the people talk about this as something paranormal, and here they use to

name this

> sleep/dream paralysis as "Se te sube el muerto", something like "the dead

climbs up

> to you" making reference to some kind of evil spirit momentarily

possession or

> something like that, and actually many people believe that's true!! They

go with

> "brujos" (sorcerers, witches, etc.) to ask for a cure!

> <br>A friend of mine claims he can even fall into this condition awake if

he stays

> still staring at "nothing", you know, with no eye movement and no closing

of

> eyelids, concentrating in nothing, just thinking blank... he has never

prove this

> as he's very scared to try this voluntarily, so i assume it's true.

> <br>

> <br>I know that this is something like your body systems do not wake up

all at once

> as usual (to say it in some way), and you are stuck in the middle between

sleep and

> awake.

> <br>

> <br>Cheers

> <br>

> <br>Javier

> <br>mexcity

> <br>

> <br>

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> &lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<br>

> <br><br>

> <br>anyone here ever had sleep paralysis??

> <br><br>this subject may have come up years ago, but there's a fresh new

crop

> <br><br>of gatherers here now...

> <br><br>

> <br><br>it seemed to be more of a talking point/phenomenon 5 or so years

ago,

> <br><br>but with all the googling i done i still couldn't find a plausible

> <br><br>explanation for it...

> <br><br>

> <br><br>for those unaware of it, it was waking up, unable to move a

muscle,

> <br><br>with a creepng noise/sensation that started at the feet and worked

its

> <br><br>way up the body... the noise got louder the higher it got, with an

> <br><br>accompanying rise in fear, with the feeling that if it crept as

high

> <br><br>as your head, it will surely mean death!

> <br><br>there were various explanations i read, but none seemed to account

for

> <br><br>the noise/fear part of it...

> <br><br>

> <br><br>

> <br><br>

> <br><br>

> <br><br>

> <br><br>

> <br><br>

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been

> <br><br>postponed indefinitely..."

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