[kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Tue Dec 23 23:54:34 EST 2008


The horse's mouth says NAY!



Let's listen to a bit more from the horse's anus first eh?



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:09
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...



thanks for the heads up i remain to hear it from the horses mouth though

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:57:18 -0500
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

He was being jocular. But you mistook it as inflamatory.
Brendan has quite the mind and an even greater mouth. :)
He also enjoys using sarcasm, irony and subtlety quite often.

You might wanna take his words with a grain of salt... Come to think of it,
a box of salt would be better.

Cheers mate!

(Waiting for Brendan to come out shrieking how he was DAMNED SERIOUS and ban
me from the island
of incompetent jesters. *Hiccup*)

At 09:52 PM 12/23/2008, Stephen Lawrence wrote:



well i speak as i find and if someone makes an inflamatory statement in my
humble opinion then they will recieve a reactionand as i used to be close to
the band i agree i found jaz quite sneering and un approachable i got on
well with youth big paul and the late raventhough

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:31:55 -0500
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

Naaaah, I'd probably be on one of the lowest rungs of the KJ ladder. Mind
you Jaz & I would never ever
get along well in person. (Well maybe many others as well... LOL)

Most of the ppl. on here know each other for quite a while and we are not
the "hardcore serious no joking" types
on here. The tone of messages run the gamut from serious to humorous, to
sad, to angry, to sarcastic to total bonkers off of
the motherfucking wall.

It's hard to judge folks when you don't know them and their style of
writing. Give it a bit of time and you'll see how correct
I am.

Cheers,
Me

PS
The first CD I ever bought was Wilson Phillips :)
http://www.amazon.com/Wilson-Phillips/dp/B000002UW5/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8
<http://www.amazon.com/Wilson-Phillips/dp/B000002UW5/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8
&s=music&qid=1230085637&sr=8-1> &s=music&qid=1230085637&sr=8-1

I gotta work harder on the tapes but I think it was a Billy Joel "Storm
Front". We were po' folk.

At 09:08 PM 12/23/2008, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

thanks for the reply exorcist whom i feel is real killing joke fan who doesn
't view them as a METAL band

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:22:54 -0500

From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

We're just a lazy/picky lot.(Well at least I am.) It'll come around.

Though mentioning it is not the wisest of choices. :)

At 07:16 PM 12/22/2008, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

for what it's worth i saw them at the academy brixtahn londahn engerland and
sorry to say as much as i love the album they were a big dissappointment
live so glad to discover prong supporting who didn't get a fair hearing from
the sychophantic fnm fans btw i 've commented on a coupla things but nobody
seems to wanna acknowledge me or the comments

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:54:52 +1100

Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

Angeldust is epic but I'd also have to loved to see FNM touring around the
time of The Real Thing:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAqXJYY11eA



Chances of getting laid have to be good after going to an early Mike Patton
gig.



I've got all their albums, even the early ones, but I don't even know the
guitarist's name. Reminds me of Kim Thayil. Damn good.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkin

Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:46

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...





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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

Subject: RE: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:15:16 +0000



Yep, i'm with you Jim, Angeldust is a superb album, funnily enough the Mrs.
and i gave it a spin just the other day, well worth it. The only track worth
a listen on TRT is Woodpeckers From Mars, but that's just my opinion.



Jel No More.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:09:18 +0000

From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

I suspect that the brief single 'squeak' taken from 'Cecilia' was the band's
witty riposte after being told off for putting so many samples on Angel
Dust.



Angel Dust is an incredible album, for sure. I was a bit bemused to see the
'1001 Albums You Must Own Before You Die' including The Real Thing but not
Angel Dust. TRT isn't a bad album at all, but it's neither as good nor as
original as the next one.



I've always felt it's a pity that so many bands were inspired by FNM to play
a fusion of funk, rap and metal, when they should really have been inspired
to ignore genre limitations and carve out their own path- FNM's real musical
legacy.



Jim.

--- On Mon, 22/12/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
<gathering at misera.net>

Date: Monday, 22 December, 2008, 4:39 PM

FNM, good call. Is it just me or is the horn at 6 seconds into Midlife
Crisis a crackup?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESjyB8EMw4w



Angel Dust is an album you gotta have, no excuse permitted. The following
video is total proof that nothing coming out these days compares to the
early 90s:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKjeRgn4CA
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKjeRgn4CA&feature=related>
&feature=related





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper

Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 03:00

To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...



Just thought I'd chime in with a few more acts worth tracking down and
evaluating:



A) I'm sure most Joke fans (and people into general alternative/metal in the
early 90s) will already have digested and evaluated these guys, but if you
haven't, it's definitely worth looking at Faith No More. Their first two
albums are patchy funk-metal with a bad singer, while The Real Thing is
solid funk-metal with a decent singer, but they were something entirely
different on Angel Dust, King For A Day and Album of the Year: heavy,
experimental, funny, abrasive and defiantly individualist. They were openly
influenced by Killing Joke- the drummer was very inlfuenced by the Joke and
PiL, Billy Gould's bass playing is often reminscent of Raven's, while
they're another of the few rock/metal bands of the time that used keyboards
openly without sounding wimpy or poppy. I know not everyone on here thinks
much of 'em, but for my money Faith No More were one of the greats. (It's
just a shame some of the guitar on Angel Dust is so mediocre- Jim Martin was
just not up to the task by then).



B) Not as abrasive as the Joke, but the first two Psychedelic Furs albums
really deserve a listen for anyone into post-punk or new wave. Having said
that, anyone into post-punk or new wave has probably already heard them.



C) D'espairsRay. Japanese rock. First-rate Japanese rock, well worth
hearing. Much better than the somewhat overrated Dir En Grey.



My 2p'th.



Jim.

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