[kj] Killing Joke's career

[The Exorcist]

I'm keeping my hopes on a more realistic level as of now.
I'm working on a great day. LOL

Best Wishes K.W.
(every time I see that I feel like saying kiwi)

Have a good,
a) hour
b) day
c) week
(I always did good on multiple choice)


At 09:36 PM 12/22/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>I know -- oh, the melodrama of it all! ; )

>

>Cheers; hope you're having a great week! : )

>

>k.w.

>----- Original Message -----

>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about 

>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 6:26 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career

>

>That damned "first true love" one just can't ever seem to let go.

>

>At 09:08 PM 12/22/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>Nice one ... mine was "Nightime" (the now and forever favorite!) : )

>>

>>k.w.

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about 

>>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:51 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career

>>I was a latecomer to Extremeties and it took me 

>>a while to get into it. After a few listens It's become a favorite of mine.

>>Patchwork or not, it's got some great songs in 

>>there with some darn strong sentiment. You don't always have to be "mystical"

>>or hidden or (insert whatever term you want in 

>>here) to be good. Sometimes brute force and simple spoken language do a

>>damned fine job.

>>On that note... being that Pandemonium was my 

>>first KJ album, it will always be my #1 

>>favorite (Pleasures of the flesh, communion,

>>exorcism) are probably favorite songs on the album.

>>Cheers

>>At 10:49 AM 12/22/2008, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>>>I agree that in some ways Extremities sounds 

>>>patched together, although it's still a 

>>>strong, unique album. It's one of thoes ones 

>>>you have to be in the mood for. "Money" got 

>>>some airplay in the US, but made me not like the song b/c I heard it too much.

>>>Pandemonium sounds a little dated, but I still 

>>>think it's one of their best in terms of sound 

>>>and songs...I usually hate metally stuff, but 

>>>I love Georkie's chugging on that record!

>>>

>>>

>>>

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>>>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:17:42 +1100

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career

>>>

>>>

>>>I agree that Pandy was a big leap, but there 

>>>are a few Extremities fanz on the list. I’m 

>>>not really one of them, sounds a bit patched 

>>>together to me, only hits first gear, except 

>>>for a couple of tracks

Termite Mound and 

>>>Beautiful Dead. I don’t really ‘get’ the title 

>>>track. Just my 2c worth. Perhaps I need to 

>>>crank the fucker and give it a few more 

>>>whirls

(while I’m on Circuit 5 or above.) Ade you’re a big fan innit?

>>>

>>>But Pandemonium leaves me with my jaw hanging 

>>>open, even still. It’s a mystical and musical 

>>>tour de force, half the point of mysticality 

>>>is that everything is not explicit or 

>>>logical

having said that, it has some of my 

>>>favourite lyrics, clever, but not too clever, 

>>>good points driven home well. Labyrinth is a 

>>>song on a totally different level, Communion 

>>>as well, Exorcism

I’m repeating myself. I 

>>>can’t speak highly enough of Pandemonium. 

>>>Pleasures of the Flesh has the most 

>>>otherworldly feel & momentum to it. Jana 

>>>totally sucked me in to the story within the 

>>>song, the music and Jaz’s singing is 

>>>plaintive, earnest & heartfelt. Honest. Black 

>>>Moon was / is an early / still favourite

I 

>>>think a fair bit of the depth of the lyrics is 

>>>only apparent if you look a level or two 

>>>deeper, bearing in mind mystical symbology.

>>>

>>>Jaz was well cast as the devil that Roc de 

>>>Thingy movie, except they didn’t give him the 

>>>chance to let loose the hellish side of his 

>>>voice, I don’t think a mainstream audience 

>>>could handle it quite honestly. And that is SO 

>>>like something he’d say

haha ;) but seriously, 

>>>I have heard better singers in terms of tone, 

>>>pitch control, range, but in terms of sheer 

>>>visceral gut-wrenching impact

there’s only a 

>>>couple who really compete. And on this album 

>>>he really let it loose for the first time in a long time.

>>>

>>>PS: none of the raw potency of the early days.

>>>

>>>

>>>Perhaps not album wide, but Exorcism? That 

>>>song’d send Beelzebum back down to where he 

>>>came from, it’s utterly unreal. Gimme the 

>>>hardest most fucked up singer in your 

>>>collection and I’ll play Exorcism for you and 

>>>slay him in one go. And to some extent 2003 

>>>took it to another level again with Implant, 

>>>Asteroid, Total Invasion

in terms of blunt force impact.

>>>----------

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jpwhkj at aol.com

>>>Sent: Monday, 22 December 2008 08:00

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career

>>>

>>>Hi Brendan,

>>>When I was writing my original post, I did 

>>>hesitate slightly due to the massive leap in 

>>>quality represented by Pandemonium.  But 

>>>although I rate it highly in its own right, I 

>>>don't think it measures up to early Killing Joke for the following reasons:

>>>* Lyrically it's nothing special - lots of Jaz 

>>>being vaguely mystical, but none of the raw potency of the early days.

>>>* Musically it stands up well, but Geordie is 

>>>chugging rather than chiming, and I don't 

>>>think it stands out from the crowd the way the early albums did.

>>>* As far as I can recall, interviews with 

>>>Killing Joke post-1989 were basically with 

>>>Jaz, with anyone else barely getting a word in 

>>>edgeways.  Intellectually, KJ had become Jaz's backing band.

>>>* Without Big Paul, there wasn't anyone to keep Jaz' ego in check.

>>>You're right that there are some excellent 

>>>tracks that came after that as well (I'd 

>>>choose Aeon, Our Last Goodbye, and 

>>>Lightbringer as my personal faves) but I 

>>>believe that the points I make above hold true 

>>>for all albums after Brighter Than A Thousand Suns.

>>>Jamie

>>>

>>>

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>>To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>>band!)' <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Sent: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:44

>>>Subject: [kj] Killing Joke's career

>>>Yes I’m actually writing a post that I don’t have to preface with OT *bows*

>>>Recent comments about Killing Joke being on a 

>>>decline since their first 6 years. I’d have to 

>>>disagree and cite, specifically, 1994’s 

>>>Pandemonium. Quoting specific song titles on 

>>>it is redundant to me, the entire album is 

>>>totally, totally, solid. 2003 was also 

>>>massive. And This Savage Freedom is one of the 

>>>best songs eve r recorded. Zennon is brilliant 

>>>as well, Universe B, 4 Stations.

>>>KJ over the last 2 years has occupied probably 

>>>more than 50% of my listening time (often 

>>>averaging 4-5+ hours a day), for long 

>>>stretches 100%, hugely disproportional. I 

>>>don’t really hold out hope of finding another 

>>>treasure trove back catalog like Killing 

>>>Joke

and at this rate, I just can’t see music 

>>>returning to the form of the past. Can only 

>>>hope. Current state of play is pretty awful, unless I’m missing some boat.

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