[kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

[ade]

Clearly racism.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: 19 August 2008 22:51
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder



And they have a jew guy making whiteface with 
white paste and a straw wig for straw hair: who can I sue?

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things]

'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
   I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'   


--- On Mon, 8/18/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net <cliffmonka at alaska.net> wrote:


From: cliffmonka at alaska.net <cliffmonka at alaska.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:36 AM


not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they

consulted

the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities.

Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter

cowards

these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff






> Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self



> obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down


to


> the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to


think


> about themselves?



>



> I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that


they


> are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their


use


> of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they


are.


>



> Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more



> publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release.



>



>



> 2008/8/18 <cliffmonka at alaska.net>



>



>> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the


protest


>> boycotting



>> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff



>>



>> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261



>>



>> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html



>>



>>



>> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html



>> >



>> >



>> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver...



>> >>



>> >>



>> >>



>> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny*



>> >> By Timothy Shriver



>> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15



>> >>



>> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film


"Tropic


>> Thunder,"



>> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been


given the


>> chance



>> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it


and read


>> excerpts = of



>> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on


the =


>> humanity of



>> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to =


dignity, hope


>> and



>> >> respect.



>> >>



>> >> Consider this exchange:



>> >>



>> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I


was doing Jack when


>> = I



>> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded."



>> >>



>> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah.


Damn."


>> >>



>> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free


myself up to


>> believe



>> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb."



>> >>



>> >> Downey: "To be a moron."



>> >>



>> >> Stiller: "Yeah."



>> >>



>> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with


intellectual


>> disabilities,<=



>> >> BR>they say:



>> >>



>> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?"



>> >>



>> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full


retard."


>> >>



>> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?"



>> >>



>> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain


Man,' look = retarded, act


>> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. =


Autistic,


>> sure. Not



>> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, =


yes. Retarded,


>> maybe.



>> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and


won a


>> ping-pong



>> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard,


man. Never go


>> full



>> >> retard."



>> >>



>> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this


topic. I know


>> about



>> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are


equal-opportunity


>> offenders.



>> >>



>> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the


equal-opportunity


>> offenders:



>> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused,


neglected,=


>> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world.


Their =


>> parents



>> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless.


Schools = turn


>> them



>> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire


= them. None of


>> this



>> >> is funny.



>> >>



>> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most


basic


>> spiritual



>> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of


reflecting the


>> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people


with


>> intellectual



>> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them?


Hopeless.


>> >>



>> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are


about overcoming


>> >> division, our social movements = are about ending


intolerance, our great


>> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among


the world's


>> poor.



>> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the


mainstream of


>> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.



>> >>



>> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't =


fit on magazine


>> covers.



>> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help =


television. Their kind of


>> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best


of the spirit


>> never



>> >> does.)



>> >>



>> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people


don't realize whom


>> they



>> >> are making fun of when = they use the word


"retard." Most people just


>> think



>> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard."


Ha, ha, ha.


>> >>



>> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean


isn't


>> funny.



>> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with


intellectual


>> disabilities



>> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten.


I've heard


>> doctors



>> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that


more than 60


>> percent of



>> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual


disability at their


>> >> child's = school.



>> >>



>> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who


= cry over


>> being



>> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from =


people who are


>> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the =


terror of being


>> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated.



>> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African


Americans for a


>> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human


beings are


>> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting.



>> >>



>> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as


to create a


>> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The


studio has since


>> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an


age of edgy,


>> >> R-rated = comedies.



>> >>



>> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children =


about


>> language



>> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your =


educators, your


>> religious



>> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people


with


>> intellectual



>> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the


right side of


>> >> dignity.



>> >>



>> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of


our lives and


>> our



>> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and


humiliating


>> others is



>> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide.



>> >>



>> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist


for


>> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.*



>> >>



>> >>



>> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:



>> >>>



>> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder



>> >>>



>> >>> That's a great website, btw.



>> >>>



>> >>> -Oliver



>> >>>



>> >>>



>> >>> folk devil wrote:



>> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war'


films...and a haha to bang


>> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..



>> >>>>



>> >>>> /"/



>> >>>>



>> >>>>



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>> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com



>> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net



>> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder



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>> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet?



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>> >>>> 'Save me...



>> >>>>   save me from Tomorrow..



>> >>>>    I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of


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>> >>>>



>> >>>>



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