[kj] OT: UK in your pants...??? Early AM coffee reading

[Karen Weil]

Interesting points on your part, ade. The video, to me, could be considered 
either way. Again, I think the host's presence really messes it up.
Paul DeLeeuw has been a famous Dutch show host for many years; he's openly 
gay, but is not known for doing anything to harm kids. However, I just find 
him very annoying.
Unfortunately, most Dutch shows have taken a turn for the worse.
The U.S., given its history with child molestation (i.e., from ignorning it 
to accusing everybody and their mother of being pervs) would freak out over 
the video, no doubt.
Gotta love that YouTube!

Ciao bella,

k.w. (who's spent some time in Nederland, but hardly an expert),
San Diego

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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: UK in your pants...??? Early AM coffee reading



> Karen,

>

> I saw the first few seconds of it this morning & thought it was footage

> from those vile US pageants, where kiddies get dressed up as adults 

> (*hurl*)

> I stopped it.

>

> Having read a few comments I realised it wasn't what I thought it was!

>

> So... is that video supposed to be humourous, or is it just a little 

> creepy?

> I mean, if it's a piss take of dodgy presenters (or somesuch), fair 

> comment,

> but.. just wondered if you knew, as you're familiar with the presenter. In

> the UK, we've taken the piss out of the media's obssession with terrifying

> people into thinking peedos are 'round every corner. Brass Eye's 

> 'Paedogeddon'

> episode in particular - very amusing!

>

> The reason I ask is because I'm not about to jump to the conclusion Olly 

> has.

> The Netherlands is stupid enough to have banned smacking, so to infer it's 

> a country where anything goes is far from reality.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil

> Sent: 30 April 2008 18:34

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> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: UK in your pants...??? Early AM coffee reading

>

>

> I find Paul DeLeeuw, the host, very annoying, but believe or not, there 

> are

> things even the Dutch won't do.

> Lovely country, but paradoxical on many levels ...

>

> Tot ziens,

>

> Karen

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

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> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:27 AM

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>

>>I don't think anything is banned in this country:

>>

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUtOLYXD19c

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>>

>> iPat wrote:

>>> whilst i cant really argue with your main point, i was suprised to

>>> read in was it England Dreaming? that magazines of young boys was only

>>> banned in the mid 70's.

>>>

>>>

>>>

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