[kj] OT - FYI - follow the leaders..

[Karen Weil]

Good points about Carter. Unfortunately, this country is penny-wise and pound-foolish (and now we're finally starting to pay for it, big-time). 
And yes, Carter was ultimately right. But his flaw was in not being able to successfully "sell" (and you understand what I mean by that) to the public.
You raise a good question about Rwanda in the 90s, but sadly, our foreign policy is based on economic interests (i.e., oil) and little else. And look what that has wrought.
And until enough people in this nation wake up (present company excluded), it will continue to be that way. 
OK, I'm off my soap box. Have a better one...

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sade1 
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  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:54 PM
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  Jimmy Carter was an example of one 
  who tried doing well despite the people's 
  wishes - and paid for it:
     way back when (very late '70s), America(zeh peeple) wanted to hit Iran into the next dimension, and Pres.Carter - knowing it would've caused a massacre of U.S. forces 
  in Irani hands, chose not to go (except for that one quickie-mission that went all shades 
  of "Bay Of Pigs," but ended up with dozens of US soldiers dead).
    He was badly and humiliatingly taken out like a dinosaur by an asteroid.

     I sometimes wonder what he would've done re:Rwanda in '92? instead of Bill Clinton's/theU.N.'s "My Pet Goat" moment.

  folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
    Jimmy Carter, then?
     
    Actually, I think he was the best ever US president...




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      Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:50:30 -0400
      From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Subject: Re: [kj] OT - FYI - Gathering emails - several going to Bulk folders

      Climate change is the only issue he has anything on. And even in that he's vastly uneducated and
      refused to debate with scientists. He's as ball-less as the rest of them. The only green he's familiar with
      is all the stuff his son smokes. :)

      Oh yes, and let's not forget his "Carbon Credit" company. He seems to be making a nice chunk of change on
      the back of "Global Warming".  Ohhhhhh... and what was that about the amount of energy his house uses?

      Sorry, I can't vote for someone who doesn't practice what he/she preaches.

      "It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don't put psychotics in high places and we've got the problem solved."    Thomas Wolfe

      Sincerely,
      Me


      At 03:33 PM 4/28/2008, you wrote:

        They should have both stepped aside and let Gore in, the only one who addresses issues, e.g. climate etc..a subject that America is about 30 years behind on.
        The U.S, is going down the proverbial, fast.
        There is no alternative..why!!!!!?




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          Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:57:49 +0100

          From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

          To: gathering at misera.net

          Subject: Re: [kj] OT - FYI - Gathering emails - several going to Bulk folders


          Pretty bloody obvious isn't it. Obummer - After he turned his back on his old Pastor, I fucking knew it. Still, it seems that people are easily led. All those so-called liberals & lefties over there are gagging to gulp down those scumbags' cocks, by the yard. Fashionably lefty/liberals, but really just fucking idle maggots who will sign-up for the nearest politically correct candiate that their friends told them to choose. Drones. Obamas blackness is supposed to prove something (because everyone forgot to apply equality) so his skin colour is STILL important to the debate. "Woo, first black president!!" Wow - wait 'til the morons find out we're all the same after all...


            
          I haven't seen anyone worthwhile pop up at these things for years. They're all as bad as Bush as far as I can see...


            

            

            
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          From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

          Sent: 28 April 2008 16:50

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            It's good that some people recognize the imperialist foreign policy intentions of Shrillary and Obamania. Here in the US, they are seen as the 2nd coming of Christ by most people (only commies like me are crticizing them). Their speeches, esp. Obama's, sound like a Christmas list of goodies they say they will give out when elected, even though they could never deliver on most of these promised even if they wanted to.


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              Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:35:44 -0700

              From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

              To: gathering at misera.net

              Subject: Re: [kj] OT - FYI - Gathering emails - several going to Bulk folders


                zOMG, when Hillarious Junk said "Obliterate," that scared me. Doofus Obama was saying, "..invade Pakistan..." [no you won't] like he has no idea** what it would provoke, but Shrillary saying "Obliterate" frightened me, really. I couldn't believe i had just heard that.  

              And people whisper of a "dream ticket" of the two together...


                
              "Wanna be the Killer of Karachi,

               wanna be the Jesus of Youtube..


                
               Let's meet and have a baby, now...."


                

                
              **raid, attack, even 

                assault, but... invade?

                ~~ B117's


              ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

                What a turncoat prick that guy is!


                  
                Anyway, did anyone hear Hellary Clinton threaten to OBLITERATE Iran?? Made my blood run cold...


                  
                None of them are any more use than wet toilet paper!

                  -----Original Message-----

                  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

                  Sent: 28 April 2008 13:46

                  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

                  Subject: Re: [kj] OT - FYI - Gathering emails - several going to Bulk folders


                  No worries Brendan, If Obama can pull it off anyone can!


                  At 01:57 AM 4/28/2008, you wrote:

                    Yeah I would but there's a direct conflict of interest with my chairmanship of the board of Obfuscators...



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                    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist

                    Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 11:43 a.m.

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                    Brendan, you were always better at the elucidations than I was.

                    You should be on the official gathering elucidation committee of elucidators.


                    Cheers,

                    Me


                    At 04:40 PM 4/27/2008, you wrote:


                    You need to de-select the Block Commies button in your email

                    program...depending on the email client it may be called any of the

                    following:


                    Commie

                    Leftie

                    Pinko

                    Hippie

                    Tree-Hugger

                    Bleeding Hearts & Artists

                    Poofter

                    Anarchist

                    Commune Dweller


                    ...should be something along those lines.


                    > Brendan and Greg.... Ahhhh that explains it all.

                    > (I'm sure Brendan would agree!)

                    > Your Internet is starting to become sentient! :)

                    >

                    > Why not just add them and the gathering email list to your "safe sender"

                    > list.



      Regardless of your inferior opinions, I'll always be willing to sit down
      and allow any of you to buy me a drink in order for me to elucidate you on
      the errors of your ways. Life is too short. Your life, I mean, if you
      don't change those opinions. Oh, it's your round. Yeah, bag of crisps
      would be great. Salt and vinegar. I'll be on the bog...hey do you have any
      stamps? I have to post something.




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