[kj] Raven, London, the first time.

[pssyche23]

Ah, Mat Smith, good bloke, I sat next to him at the Columbia Hotel lecture in 1995. I had regularly been reading MM since about 1988 until it's demise. He told me he'd just been to Marrakesh. I told him I'd just got back from 5 days in Moscow, but I was too embarrassed to say I'd been looking at planes !!!

Regarding VVDV's friend, I believe the exact language was "mercilessly defiled" ... I guess it kinda explains his love/hate relationship with KJ.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neil Perry 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] Raven, London, the first time.


  Holy crap, Valec VD Veene, there's a name I haven't heard for
  a long time. I remember now his rather schizophrenic presence
  as a KJ fan/non-fan. I had an email this week from Mat Smith,
  former MM journo who I've known since we were in the same college
  class together - we first started chatting cos I was wearing a 
  What's THIS For t-shirt - Birds of a feather, as the saying goes.
  I haven't spoken to him since the KJ Astoria gigs a few years back,
  but he wanted to talk about Raven. 
  I must say that earlier email from Raven's brother had me with a
  tear in my eye.

  N

  pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net> wrote:

    I remember reading a gig review after in Sounds and the reviewer absolutely 
    slated KJ (probably because the NME had got the weekly Iceland blog) yet 
    then said he'd walked out after 10 minutes - what a complete prat - anyone 
    got that review to hand (my own press cutting is "somewhere") ? I was then 
    surprised to see an equally scathing review of the HA ! album from one time 
    KJ mega-supportive Sounds journo Valac Van Der Veene (who gave the first 
    album ***** but then HA only one *) but Raven put the record straight in an 
    email as he suggested that VVDV sort of fell out with KJ after a far too 
    close encounter with his lady friend ...

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Paul Richards" 
    To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

    Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:03 AM
    Subject: [kj] Raven, London, the first time.


    > Click the links for the first 2 tracks from the Lyceum (24.10.82), which 
    > AFAIK(or remember) was the first time us Londoners saw Raven. Although 
    > this is the master tape, the quality is pretty shit ( I can't remember 
    > which of my friends actually recorded it but they were stood too far up 
    > the balcony). I wanted to include Birds of a Feather, but the batteries 
    > were running out & it sounds like pinky & perky. Anyone know how to 
    > gradually change the tempo of a wav file? Does anyone have a decent copy 
    > of this gig?
    >
    > (First time for Booids too)
    >
    > Second link is The Gathering & Empire Song.
    >
    > http://download.yousendit.com/C2A3D5554BE06932
    >
    >
    > http://download.yousendit.com/13B1A5B46A590652
    >
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