[kj] OT: Billy Bragg: Proud to meet the Queen, have symphonic works performed w/ his lyrics

[Christof hamille]

> SO many people I bump into know of Killing Joke. Maybe Night Time was

> their heyday in terms of popularity and sales...


I wear some sort of shirt or badge pretty regularly.  And I always get people that say "They were so good. Are they still around?  Really?  Didn't know that"  Maybe that is a US thing, or at very least MI.  

Chris




> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:10:12 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Billy Bragg: Proud to meet the Queen, have symphonic works performed w/ his lyrics

> 

> I flatted with a guy who was a wanker DJ on a big, shitty rock station

> about 3-4 years ago, and they plugged 2003. Not sure if they played any of

> it, I don't listen to radio, but they probably did. Loose Cannon and that

> kinda stuff. I heard Millenium a lot on the radio in 94, albeit student

> radio. But that still made me and my mate go and buy the album. I think

> Pandemonium and KJ 2003 would have sold really well, and you always get

> people who will pick up the next album (and the one after) just on the

> strength of the previous ones.

> 

> Islands don't come cheap either.

> 

> SO many people I bump into know of Killing Joke. Maybe Night Time was

> their heyday in terms of popularity and sales...

> 

> 

> 

> >

> > WHat royalty checkes? Hoe's Anus sold about 5 copies in the US, and I have

> > one of them. The last time KJ was played on ANY us radio was some stuff

> > from Pandemonium, and "Money is not Our God" before that. You can't even

> > hear (new OR old) KJ on college radio any more. Unless they are huge stars

> > in the UK (which I doubt) I think any $ they've gotten in the past decade

> > from the Joke is just spare beer & cigar money.> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007

> > 10:00:49 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Billy Bragg: Proud to meet the Queen, have symphonic

> > works performed w/ his lyrics> > He seems extremely prolific, always up to

> > something new, which renders> some of the moaning about the lack of

> > progress on the KJ front a bit> unfair IMO. He's probably quite happy with

> > the royalty cheques for KJ> coming in regularly...Pandemonium on must have

> > made a fortune, all those> new Nu Metallers buying up the latest album!

> > (Okay Nu metal probably post> dates 1994 to be honest). 2003 with Grohl's

> > name on it would have helped a> lot. I'm sure there are a bunch of people

> > who have bought everything since> Pandemonium and on, and like me, gone

> > into the back catalog as well. I> think they picked up a lot of momentum

> > with that album...they probably> deserved it after the years of crap post

> > BTATS (excepting Extremities).> > And as much as he dismisses the

> > importance of money I get the impression> he's actually pretty shrewd with

> > it, I was surprised to find out recently> that not only did he work at or

> > manage York St studios in NZ back in the> day, be seems to have been the

> > one who set it up. Perhaps with a mix of> his own and others' funds, but

> > I'm sure he did well out of it...and good> on him.> > Sometimes it's

> > albums like that one we're talking about, where you really> aren't

> > expecting to enjoy it, that your lack of preconceptions really> helps your

> > eventual enjoyment, and changes your perspective. I used to> think punk

> > was absolute shite, now I finally get it, thanks in fact to> Killing Joke

> > and The Gathering. Still think a lot of it is limited shite,> sounds the

> > same, but some of that stuff like Rudimentary Peni etc I can> get into.

> > (Would have to say I probably prefer the 'post punk' stuff more,> on

> > balance, but still have a lot to listen to...)> > What I would call my

> > favourite song ever, if I had to choose one, was> sitting on an album (my

> > favourite album) for about 10 years, relatively> undiscovered, because it

> > comes just before another previous favourite...I> was always just hanging

> > out to hear the next track and never heard it> properly, until my little

> > brother said what a great track it was...jarred> me into re-analysing it,

> > and it just grew and grew on me.> > Anyways, I'll give Symphonic Zep a

> > listen and let you know what I> think...but I'm a huge Zep fan so it won't

> > be an unbiased opinion. Zep are> still in my top 5 bands. (Killing Joke,

> > Soundgarden, Tool, Zep, and> depending on how I feel on the day, probably

> > Kyuss...)> > > > Honestly, I haven't heard the symphonic Led Zeppelin

> > stuff and am not> > eager to. That sounds like one of the worst ideas in

> > history to me.> >> > Seriously, though, since being EU

> > Composer-in-Residence, what has Jaz> > done other than make cameos on

> > other bands' stuff? Is that what the job> > entails? I'd actually like to

> > know. But I don't wanna sit through> > symphonies of classic rock. Ugh.>

> > >> > -Oliver> >> >> >> >> > Brendan wrote:> >> what's goin' on with Jaz

> > and that high falutn '> >> "EU-Composer-in-Residence" stuff? Hmm?

> > -Oliver]> >>> >> Expanding his musical interests wider and deeper, I think

> > it's brilliant> >> myself. Haven't got any of that stuff, but am keen to

> > get the Symphonic> >> Led Zep, Oceania etc...I've heard some of the

> > symphonic version of> >> Kashmir> >> on Youtube and it sounds great to

> > me...I tend to agree with him that all> >> the previous symphonic rock

> > albums are trash (although I do think that> >> those symphonic / operatic

> > elements in Queen, ELO, Beatles etc aren't> >> too> >> bad).> >>> >> I sat

> > through a few songs of Metallica with an orchestra on telly a> >> while>

> > >> back and it was god awful (to me)...didn't enhance the music at all,>

> > >> quite> >> the opposite.> >> >

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