[kj] OT: Chrome recommendation

[Blazingstar418]

It *is* a bit tricky since Damon died.

Damon's family are claiming sole rights to all
recorded material. Regardless of the fact that Helios
is clearly mentioned as a (living) co-writer of the
material.

 Damon came from a wealthy family.
 Helios is living in a trailer in Kansas.

 He doesn't have money to hire a laywer if Damon's
family decided to sue him over what's rightfully his.

This has been a BIG problem with the money owed Helios
from the *Touch and Go* label's release of "Half
Machine Lip Moves/Alien Soundtracks.
 Which to my knowledge is one of their best selling
CD's.

Touch and Go are afraid of getting caught up in a
lawsuit with Damon's family, and as a result, they
won't give any money to Helios.

Cleopatra records have no problem with releasing
material, but plenty of problems *paying* their
artists!

And there it lies, dead in the water.....
I really hope things turn around for Helios.

I hope that we can see some legitimate remasters of
the material, and that he gets the money that's due
him.

A L P
 
--- Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com>
wrote:


> 	I was actually in contact with Beggars Banquet

> recently as the vinyl  

> of my Red Exposure has become very noisy  and I

> wondered if a re- 

> release was on the horizon....(it's not available on

> CD - the box is  

> missing a few tracks).

> 

> 	They replied: "Interestingly we're looking at Red

> Exposure as we  

> believe we have world rights and we certainly have

> the only set of  

> original masters - so we could do the best re-issue

> sonically.  

> However, since Damon Edge died it's all a bit

> complicated."

> 

> 	/Per

> 

> 

> 12 okt 2007 kl. 19.09 skrev Christof hamille:

> 

> > You are correct.  And that probably didn't come

> across right.   

> > There are "classic" Chrome records and for the

> uninitiated if they  

> > were to pick up a newer one it may throw them for

> a loop.

> > I thought/think Helios was a cool guy.  A little

> out there but  

> > cool.  Helios is definitely a major factor in the

> classic Chrome.   

> > And some of his 90s solo stuff (and appearances)

> are really good.

> > I started corresponding with both of them in the

> 90s as a result of  

> > Damon being on Dossier.  Which, from what I could

> gather, was a  

> > strange time for Damon (as far as mentally

> stable).

> >

> > Not trying to discredit or dismiss anyone

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:30:45 -0700

> > > From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com

> > > To: gathering at misera.net

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Chrome recommendation

> > >

> > > > Be careful of new Chrome. The main guy is dead

> > > > (Damon Edge 1995).

> > >

> > > I play on the last 3-4 new Chrome albums and I'd

> agree

> > > with the first part of this statement! ;)

> > >

> > > However, to be *really* fair, even thought Damon

> was

> > > the one that started the project and recorded

> "the

> > > Visitation" (prior to Helios' involvement) when

> Helios

> > > joined he not only took over as

> > > Guitarist/Bassist/Keyboardist/Primary Vocalist,

> but he

> > > also completely changed the sound of that group

> from

> > > bad prog into the

> > >

> experimental-industrial-futuristic-metallic-crunch

> > > that most of us die hard fans still love today.

> > >

> > > Almost every note played on the albums from Red

> > > Exposure up until Third From the Sun were played

> by

> > > *just* Damon and Helios.

> > >

> > > Helios' contribution to (if not *invention* of

> IMHO)

> > > the classic Chrome sound is also clearly

> evidenced by

> > > the drasticly different music that came about in

> his

> > > absence on both "The Visitation" (pre) and again

> on

> > > Damon's later period (post) Chrome albums on

> Dossier.

> > >

> > > Again, just trying to give Helios his fair

> shake.

> > >

> > > A L P

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Christof hamille

> <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Be careful of new Chrome. The main guy is dead

> > > > (Damon Edge 1995).

> > > > Helios Creed was in it originally. Dropped out

> for

> > > > may years after having a fallout with Damon.

> > > > Resumed the name after he died.

> > > > To be fair to Helios they were collaborating

> again

> > > > (albeit briefly and infrequently) before his

> death.

> > > > And of Chrome's most popular releases Helios

> is on

> > > > it.

> > > > I've met both of them over the years. Damon

> was

> > > > nice, but a bit introverted while helios was a

> bit

> > > > more...eccentric. I read somewhere the he is a

> > > > train conductor now.

> > > >

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:24:54 -0500

> > > > > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > > > > To: gathering at misera.net

> > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Swans recommendation

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I figured out the Neurosis/Swans link

> > > > finally.

> > > > >

> > > > > The official Swans website contains a

> t-shirt

> > > > design with this explanation:

> > > > >

> > > > > " $16 JARBOE T-SHIRT NEUROSIS & JARBOE [L]

> From

> > > > the well-known

> > > > > collaboration with Neurosis. Back features

> image

> > > > of bees wings. Size[L]"

> > > > >

> > > > > The well-known collaboration? I love(d)

> Neurosis.

> > > > Never knew they did

> > > > > something with member(s) of The Swans 'til I

> found

> > > > that site.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ah, yeah, now Chrome, ironically, I knew

> about

> > > > them. There are still

> > > > > gaps here and there I need to fill though.

> Which

> > > > will be impossible to

> > > > > do since there's a gazillion underground

> bands now

> > > > and the reach really

> > > > > is global.

> > > > >

> > > > > -Oliver

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Leigh Newton wrote:

> > > > > > In many ways, it sucks being a latercomer.

> It's

> > > > not all bad though. One good part is that

> everything

> > > > is right there for you to plunder. This list

> is a

> > > > good place for latecomers, namely myself. I'm

> a

> > > > latecomer to just about everything. It was

> thanks to

> > > > the Gathering that i got turned onto the

> genius that

> > > > is Chrome. The Damon Edge/Helios Creed era, to

> be

> > > > exact. Nothing else is quite like it. Thanks

> > > > Gathering!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Leigh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----

> > > > > > From: B. Oliver Sheppard

> > > > <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> > > > > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke

> (the

> > > > band!) <gathering at misera.net>

> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:34:13

> PM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Swans recommendation

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wow, thanks for impressing upon me how

> genius

> > > > the Swans were, gang, I

> > > > > > recently got to explore their back

> catalogue

> > > > better. Just insane,

> > > > > > genius. I never appreciated it, as all I'd

> heard

> > > > was that dubbed copy of

> > > > > > the Body to Body, Job to Job cassette,

> which I

> > > > liked, but it didn't just

> > > > > > overwhelm me or anything. Now I'm totally

> amazed

> > > > by what I've been

> > > > > > hearing by the Swans.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See, I can be a latecomer to some things.

> I

> > > > didn't really realize how

> > > > > > brilliant KJ were 'til almost two years

> ago,

> > > > though I'd like stuff by

> > > > > > them here and there before that. Then the

> light

> > > > switch on my brain went

> > > > > > on, and I was like, this is actually kinda

> > > > genius. I used to only like

> > > > > > fast, crossover thrashy or hardcore punk

> --

> > > > maybe I am getting older.

> > > > > > But, yeah, The Swans. Wow. The Great

> Annihilator

> > > > *is* good, like Javier

> > > > > > said.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks so much, guys.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Oliver

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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