[kj] OT: Jane's WAS: New October File vid

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 10 08:13:28 EDT 2007



Notice I said "white GUY", Janean. Girls can get away with much more.

Alex in NYC


On Oct 10, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Janean Lancaster wrote:


> Eek. I had dreads for a few years. Ahem.

>

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> On Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> Sent: 10 October 2007 13:00

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jane's WAS: New October File vid

>

>

> Okay, I'll concede that. Dreads on a white guy is the worst. Yeah, I

> know Raven and Youth have both sported them at one point or another,

> but it's just the worst look in the world, as far as I'm concerned.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On Oct 10, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Leigh Newton wrote:

>

>> With dreads though!

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----

>> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>> To: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>> Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <gathering at misera.net>

>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 3:52:32 PM

>> Subject: [kj] OT: Jane's WAS: New October File vid

>>

>>

>> Sorry, as I struggle to get out of needlessly argumentative mode, but

>> Jane's Addiction may not have been your particular cup of tea, but

>> calling them "LA Glam Metal" is just incorrect. Speaking as someone

>> who owned his fair share of albums from that scene (Ratt, Motley

>> Crue, Quiet Riot, Lita Ford, Faster Pussycat, W.A.S.P, etc.), I can

>> very authoritatively say that they sounded NOTHING like those bands.

>>

>> Guns N' Roses, on the other hand, WERE crappy LA Glam Metal. Why

>> people treat them with undue reverence as being anything OTHER than a

>> LA Metal band has always confounded me.

>>

>> Again, I'm not saying Jane's Addiction were God's fucking gift, but

>> they weren't an LA Glam metal band.

>>

>> Rant over.

>>

>> Alex in NYC

>>

>>

>>

>> On Oct 9, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Alexander Smith wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> You guys obviously don't know jack about LA Glam metal.

>>>

>>> Alex in NYC

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Oct 9, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Brendan wrote:

>>>

>>>> Jane's Addiction were LA Glam metal with dreads.

>>>>

>>>> TESTIFY! God I thought it was just me...

>>>>

>>>>> Yeah, Quicksand were an awesome band. I was lucky enough to get

>>>>> to see

>>>>> them when they got back together in 1998 to tour with Deftones. I

>>>>> also

>>>>> really liked Walter's band Rival Schools which lasted from around

>>>>> 2000 -

>>>>> 2003 or so. Similiar to Quicksand. His most recent band - Walking

>>>>> Concert

>>>>> (who may or may not even be active anymore, I'm not sure) are not

>>>>> my cup

>>>>> of tea. Way to indie-rock sounding.

>>>>>

>>>>> Jane's Addiction were LA Glam metal with dreads.

>>>>>

>>>>> Leigh

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> ----- Original Message ----

>>>>> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>

>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 9:40:40 AM

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] New October File vid, from upcoming LP - on

>>>>> second

>>>>> though, don't it sound like Quicksand?

>>>>>

>>>>> On second thought, this new October File song sounds a bit like

>>>>> QUICKSAND. ANyone remember them? Early 90s post-hardcore band in

>>>>> the

>>>>> vein of Fugazi and Seaweed, good stuff, sometimes great, for some

>>>>> reason

>>>>> never captured as much success as they should have:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBSXFPDI-A

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Good stuff! I often heard it weirdly said, when unknowing folks

>>>>> heard

>>>>> Quicksand back in the day, "Hey, that sounds like Tool!" But

>>>>> Quicksand

>>>>> had zero to do with Tool; Quicksand came out of the East Coast

>>>>> New York

>>>>> Hardcore scene but sounded more like Fugazi w/ maybe Jane's

>>>>> Addiction

>>>>> for vocals. Good formula for success -- but they got none. And

>>>>> they may

>>>>> have started out before Tool, at least as early as 1990.

>>>>>

>>>>> -Oliver

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>>>>> October File new song: "Another Day" (hmm..."A New Day,"

>>>>>> anyone?)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> New video:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_uT4GR6s0g

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