[kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

[Alexander Smith]

Pray tell, what exactly is "at stake" when you watch a football game?  
It's fucking entertainment, pure and simple.

Alex in NYC



On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:


> Well the reason why music attending fans are prone to being more  

> passive than sports attending fans , is that at gigs there is no  

> opposition and there is nothing at stake, you are there purely to  

> watch and listen , and you are all watching and listening to the  

> same thing .

>     I'm sure that the atmosphere would be different at gigs if you  

> went to see Killing joke playing against the Back Street Boys and  

> killing joke lost to a last minute song by the Back Street Boys and  

> that meant that Killing joke missed out on three valuable points  

> and all the Back Street Boys fans were gloating and calling you  

> names from the other side of the venue

>

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:08:22 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

>

>

> Well, there are people who passively like sports, and then there  

> are "sports fans" -- people who eat, breathe, shit, shower, shave  

> sports all the time.

>

> Likewise, there are people who passively enjoy music, and then  

> there are "music fans" -- people who are preoccupied with the  

> listening, accumulation and ephemera of music.

>

> I'm not saying they're mutually exclusive.

>

> I'm just saying that "sports fans" more often than not tend to be  

> meatnecked, slackjawed idiots.

>

> This is not to say that all music fans are exemplary human beings,  

> but they're probably less likely to be a slackjawed aped inclined  

> to punch you in the jaw.

>

> Ale

>

>

> On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:

>

> So Alex, are you saying that the sport following crowd and the  

> music following crowd are completely separate?

> Yes, there may be a few people who are only into either sport or  

> music, but i would say that the vast majority of gig goers also  

> follow a sport .

>

>

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:54:11 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

>

>

> I'd agree with you if you were right.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:

>

>

> I'm not wrong Alex, I am right .

>

>

>

>

>

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:44:12 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

>

>

> You're wrong.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

> On Oct 5, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:

>

> "That all said, you're bound to meet

> more dim, violent shitheads at a sports gathering than anywhere else."

>

>

>     Oh Alex, how could you so obtuse , its the same crowd that  

> attend gigs and sporting events . There isnt a separate music crowd  

> and a separate sports crowd, they are entwined .

>     Speaking of violence , if anyone is aware of an Arsenal  

> supporter called Denton , he unfortunately died last night

>

>

>

>

> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:04:57 -0400

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

> >

> > Not sure how obesity figures into this. One can be fit, healthy,

> > active and -- yes -- athletic without being a thick-skulled sports

> > denizen.

> >

> > What my children end up taking an interest in is their own business.

> > I cannot control where their interests will take them.

> >

> > And yes, there is idiocy in every realm of human culture -- be it

> > music or sports or whathaveyou. That all said, you're bound to meet

> > more dim, violent shitheads at a sports gathering than anywhere  

> else.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> > On Oct 5, 2007, at 12:04 PM, iPat wrote:

> >

> > > we've discussed violence at gigs b4. Maybe you forget?

> > > i recall the punks getting it at stonehenge, violence at gigs from

> > > sham, ramones, siouxsie, clash, stranglers, sex gang children,  

> meteors

> > > etc

> > > now would you rather your child did a sport which kept it  

> healthy or

> > > join the growing legion of obese children?

> > >

> > > On 10/5/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't recall anyone getting "nearly

> > >> castrated" for

> > >> wearing an Exploited t-shirt at a Ozric Tentacles show or  

> anything

> > >> like

> > >> that.

> > >>

> > >> Alex in NYC

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