[kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

[Alexander Smith]

Dimebag got killed by a lone, crazed gunman -- clearly an exception  
to the rule.

Alex in NYC


On Oct 5, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:


> Well Dimebage got killed for leaving a band and all the Durannies  

> at school used to get abuse from the Spandau Ballet fans

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> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:13:29 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

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> Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't recall anyone getting "nearly  

> castrated" for wearing an Exploited t-shirt at a Ozric Tentacles  

> show or anything like that.

>

> Alex in NYC

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> On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:

>

> Oh Alex, you are in a foul mood today arent you? Go and have a game  

> of frisbee or something or go for  a jog on the park , or is that  

> considered to be too sports like ?

>     Its not only sports fans that are tribal and confront people  

> from other tribes , music fans also do this .

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> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:31:39 -0400

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

> >

> > Need I say more? Sports fans = fucking idiots.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> > On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:37 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> >

> > > [Here's something related: Texas Longhorns fan "nearly castrated"

> > > by angry Oklahoma fan in Okla bar -- and the guy who "almost

> > > castrated" the Texas fan is a church deacon and Army vet, to boot,

> > > according to article. - Oliver]

> > >

> > >

> > > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hYCD4Gu5sgpDRm3qzPcAyhDNNLDQ

> > >

> > >

> > > Football Rivalry at Center of Bar Fight

> > > By SEAN MURPHY – Sep 11, 2007

> > >

> > > OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — To some Oklahoma football fans, there are

> > > things that just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and  

> one

> > > of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.

> > >

> > > That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a  

> Texas-

> > > shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing

> > > aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to

> > > five years.

> > >

> > > The shocking case has set off a raging debate in this football-

> > > crazed region about the extreme passions behind a bitter rivalry.

> > > Some legal observers have even questioned whether this case could

> > > ever truly have an impartial jury.

> > >

> > > "I've actually heard callers on talk radio say that this guy

> > > deserved what he got for wearing a Texas T-shirt into a bar in the

> > > middle of Sooner country," said Irven Box, an attorney in this  

> city

> > > 20 miles from Oklahoma's campus in Norman.

> > >

> > > According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher  

> Thomas

> > > walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T-

> > > shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from

> > > another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.

> > >

> > > Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the

> > > bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him

> > > to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to

> > > break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down

> > > and realized the extent of his injuries.

> > >

> > > "He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his

> > > body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair

> > > of white shorts, which made it that much worse."

> > >

> > > It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police

> > > interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.

> > >

> > > Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, concedes that his client commented

> > > about Thomas' shirt, but said it was just good-natured ribbing and

> > > that he apologized to Thomas when it appeared to upset the Texas

> > > fan. Later, Bock said Thomas approached his client at the bar and

> > > threatened him.

> > >

> > > "My client is a little man, and this guy (Thomas) is 30 to 40

> > > pounds bigger than him," Bock said. "He's bigger, stronger,  

> younger

> > > and probably faster, and he aggressively leaned in and touched my

> > > client and threatened to beat him up. ... My guy was defending

> > > himself and just took control of the situation."

> > >

> > > Thomas' attorney disputes Beckett's version.

> > >

> > > "That's total malarkey," Hughes said. "My client never said a word

> > > to him. He got up to pay and when he paid and left a tip, the guy

> > > grabbed him."

> > >

> > > Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former

> > > Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty. His next court

> > > appearance comes Oct. 4, two days before the Sooners and Horns

> > > tangle in their annual football game at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

> > >

> > > Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during  

> the

> > > heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering  

> from

> > > his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's

> > > Club warehouse store.

> > >

> > > Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never

> > > attended either university, but have come to identify so closely

> > > with these teams that they attach banners to their cars, wear team

> > > colors on game day and even have programmed their car horns to  

> play

> > > school fight songs.

> > >

> > > Dallas police Sgt. Andy Harvey, a 12-year veteran of the force,

> > > said it's not uncommon for fights to break out between fans of the

> > > two schools.

> > >

> > > "People are passionate about their teams and their universities,

> > > and that's a good thing," he said, "but when you mix a real

> > > passionate sports fan and then get a little alcohol in there,

> > > sometimes it's not a good mix."

> > >

> > > On both Texas and Oklahoma fan Web sites, boosters trade familiar

> > > tales of having their car tires slashed or windshields smashed for

> > > sporting the opposing team's sticker in enemy territory.

> > >

> > > Assistant District Attorney Scott Rowland said the rivalry will

> > > have no bearing on the way the case is prosecuted.

> > >

> > > "It appears that it played a part in the fight," he said, "but  

> that

> > > won't play any more of a role in our handling of the case than

> > > would a fight over a girl or a car or a song on the jukebox."

> > > Hosted by Google

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alexander Smith wrote:

> > > > No it doesn't. The appreciation of music isn't enforced and

> > > ingrained into the fragile minds of the young by educational

> > > institutions in as nearly a potent and MANDATORY a fashion as

> > > sports are.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Alex in NYC

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:42 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Music has more responsibility for "fucking up American society"

> > > than what sports does , plus having a Country full of fuckwits

> > > doesn't help...........

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > >

> > >

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