[kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

Schofield, David DavidSchofield at liberata.com
Fri Oct 5 11:19:31 EDT 2007


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I did once see a guitarist of a band hit a member of the audience with
his guitar for wearing a Wonderstuff t-shirt.....



I've also heard a story about Jaz throwing someone out from backstage
for wearing the wrong band t-shirt.





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 05 October 2007 16:13
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack



Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't recall anyone getting "nearly castrated"
for wearing an Exploited t-shirt at a Ozric Tentacles show or anything
like that.



Alex in NYC







On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:





Oh Alex, you are in a foul mood today arent you? Go and have a game of
frisbee or something or go for a jog on the park , or is that
considered to be too sports like ?
Its not only sports fans that are tribal and confront people from
other tribes , music fans also do this .








> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:31:39 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

>

> Need I say more? Sports fans = fucking idiots.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:37 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>

> > [Here's something related: Texas Longhorns fan "nearly castrated"

> > by angry Oklahoma fan in Okla bar -- and the guy who "almost

> > castrated" the Texas fan is a church deacon and Army vet, to boot,

> > according to article. - Oliver]

> >

> >

> > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hYCD4Gu5sgpDRm3qzPcAyhDNNLDQ

> >

> >

> > Football Rivalry at Center of Bar Fight

> > By SEAN MURPHY - Sep 11, 2007

> >

> > OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - To some Oklahoma football fans, there are

> > things that just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and one

> > of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.

> >

> > That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas-



> > shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing

> > aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to

> > five years.

> >

> > The shocking case has set off a raging debate in this football-

> > crazed region about the extreme passions behind a bitter rivalry.

> > Some legal observers have even questioned whether this case could

> > ever truly have an impartial jury.

> >

> > "I've actually heard callers on talk radio say that this guy

> > deserved what he got for wearing a Texas T-shirt into a bar in the

> > middle of Sooner country," said Irven Box, an attorney in this city

> > 20 miles from Oklahoma's campus in Norman.

> >

> > According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher Thomas

> > walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T-

> > shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from

> > another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.

> >

> > Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the

> > bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him

> > to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to

> > break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down

> > and realized the extent of his injuries.

> >

> > "He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his

> > body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair

> > of white shorts, which made it that much worse."

> >

> > It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police

> > interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.

> >

> > Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, concedes that his client commented

> > about Thomas' shirt, but said it was just good-natured ribbing and

> > that he apologized to Thomas when it appeared to upset the Texas

> > fan. Later, Bock said Thomas approached his client at the bar and

> > threatened him.

> >

> > "My client is a little man, and this guy (Thomas) is 30 to 40

> > pounds bigger than him," Bock said. "He's bigger, stronger, younger

> > and probably faster, and he aggressively leaned in and touched my

> > client and threatened to beat him up. ... My guy was defending

> > himself and just took control of the situation."

> >

> > Thomas' attorney disputes Beckett's version.

> >

> > "That's total malarkey," Hughes said. "My client never said a word

> > to him. He got up to pay and when he paid and left a tip, the guy

> > grabbed him."

> >

> > Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former

> > Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty. His next court

> > appearance comes Oct. 4, two days before the Sooners and Horns

> > tangle in their annual football game at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

> >

> > Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during the

> > heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering from

> > his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's

> > Club warehouse store.

> >

> > Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never

> > attended either university, but have come to identify so closely

> > with these teams that they attach banners to their cars, wear team

> > colors on game day and even have programmed their car horns to play

> > school fight songs.

> >

> > Dallas police Sgt. Andy Harvey, a 12-year veteran of the force,

> > said it's not uncommon for fights to break out between fans of the

> > two schools.

> >

> > "People are passionate about their teams and their universities,

> > and that's a good thing," he said, "but when you mix a real

> > passionate sports fan and then get a little alcohol in there,

> > sometimes it's not a good mix."

> >

> > On both Texas and Oklahoma fan Web sites, boosters trade familiar

> > tales of having their car tires slashed or windshields smashed for

> > sporting the opposing team's sticker in enemy territory.

> >

> > Assistant District Attorney Scott Rowland said the rivalry will

> > have no bearing on the way the case is prosecuted.

> >

> > "It appears that it played a part in the fight," he said, "but that

> > won't play any more of a role in our handling of the case than

> > would a fight over a girl or a car or a song on the jukebox."

> > Hosted by Google

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Alexander Smith wrote:

> > > No it doesn't. The appreciation of music isn't enforced and

> > ingrained into the fragile minds of the young by educational

> > institutions in as nearly a potent and MANDATORY a fashion as

> > sports are.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alex in NYC

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:42 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:

> > >

> > >> Music has more responsibility for "fucking up American society"

> > than what sports does , plus having a Country full of fuckwits

> > doesn't help...........

> > >>

> > >>

> >

> >

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