[kj] . . Clutch/Homies

GREG SLAWSON gregslawson at msn.com
Wed Oct 3 23:17:48 EDT 2007



If you re-read my post, I said that the gov. left 1500 people to die (both at the convention center and in houses) and had the means to rescue most. The cops shot at one group that was trying to leave the mess, but I don't think they hit anyone (they were probably warning shots). I even have a friend who was there, and saw cops looting a shopping mall. BTW, comparing China in the 50s to China today is a HUGE leap--today's Chinese gov. differs not only in leaders but in ideology, practice, policy, etc. etc.


From: flightbringer at hotmail.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:20:00 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] . . Clutch/Homies


Well, no, the Chinese Government cares nothing about its people , that's why it has an appalling human rights record. As I said previously, this isnt about two different Countries , what America does is irrelevant , I'm just concentrating on communist policies . But I didnt realise that about the American Police in New Orleans, that shot and killed 1500 people who were trying to escape the floods?1500 people tried to cross a bridge to escape the floods and the New Orleans police open fire and killed all of them? I agree, that is terrible . Did the Police never get prosecuted for murder ? If not , why not ? The Police are there to serve and to protect and not to murder innocent people fleeing for their lives . That truly is horrendous by the American Police


From: gregslawson at msn.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:37:53 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] . . Clutch/Homies

You've GOT to be (killing) joking. At least the Chinese tried to feed as many as they could despite famine; the local, state, and federal US governments left 1,500 people to die, even though they had busses lined up, had bottled water, etc. ready to deliver, etc. THe cops even shot at people trying to leave New Orleans over a bridge. It was downright murder of 1,500 Americans by their own gov't.


From: flightbringer at hotmail.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:51:30 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] . . Clutch/Homies

We are not dealing with any individual countries here, we are dealing with ideologies . The famine that swept through China in the 30's and 40's was partly due to the communists and their inability to get food on peoples tables, whilst Katrina was purely down to nature . Also the Chinese famine was on a different scale to Katrina , 2 million people died in the Chinese famine and the only people to die in Katrina were the ones who dies naturally . People didnt starve to death in Katrina either , which proves that Capitalist Countries are mire apt with dealing with disasters than Communist Countries are. > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:39:01 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] . . Clutch/Homies> > When something bad happens, it redounds to a country's communism. A > famine sweeps over China in the 1930s and 1940s? Well, that's communism. > Not a natural disaster or anything else -- communism did it, or > catastrophically exacerbated it.> > When Katrina and other shameful things happen in the US, though, is that > democracy, or capitalism? Why, no! That's just a fluke in an otherwise > pretty sterling system. Economic downturn in "communist" nation = caused > by communism. Economic downturn in Western country -- an anomaly, sure > to be cleared up soon once things retool.> > Different standards for different places. Korea does something bad, it > redounds immediately to the fact they claim to be communist. Not to the > fact they say they're democratic (their official name is the Democratic > People's Republic of Korea, just as the US says it's a democratic > republic) -- but to the approved culprit, communism. Whether Korea > actually follows any communist tenets or not.> > The US does something bad, it doesn't redound to its being a democratic > Republic. The script reads that the US may be flawed and imperfect, but > it's still awesomely noble in intent nonetheless, by gum. And you can > believe that when other nations intervene in others' affairs to avert > humanitarian catastrophes, like Vietnam invading Cambodia to put a stop > to the Khmer Rouge genocide in the 70s, that won't get much praise from > the US, either, because it's the wrong people being the heroes. They're > not sticking to the script, dammit!> > -Oliver> > > > GREG SLAWSON wrote:> > And, fascist North Korea also call themselves Communist, and Peter > > West probably believes it, but then again he's a brain-dead zombie> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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