[kj] ot: good news!
melinda grant
hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 19 08:39:38 EDT 2007
OLIVER I LOVE YOU MATE ;-D,applause to you,great speach,i second and even
third what you postED here below ;-D
melinda--with respect to you ok!! ok,ok ok,thats pushing it ;-)
>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!
>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:44:53 -0500
>
>I have no idea how free speech even enters into this. As far as I know, no
>one said the guy should be banned or gagged. If he didn't give a shit about
>what anyone thought about him, he shouldn't have a problem with me or
>anyone else thinking he's a vile racist fuck. You said we're entitled to an
>opinion -- that's mine. The free speech thing is an entirely separate
>issue; have no idea where it came from here. If speech is free, I'm free to
>rant and rave and harp about how the guy was backwards, reactionary bigot,
>right?
>
>"Live and let live," "free speech," -- lots of nice liberal, hippy-ish
>values are suddenly conjured up to defend a guy who earned his coin
>denigrating immigrants, blacks, gays, etc. with all his usual
>Archie-Bunker-meets-Jabba-the-Hut subtlety. Free speech means the guy can
>be as hateful as he wants, but it also means we can trash talk him any time
>we like, including right when he's on his death bed. When Reagan died I
>wasn't cowed into suddenly getting all warm and fuzzy over him. Not gonna
>happen here, either.
>
>-Oliver
>
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>
>
>Mik Raven wrote:
>>
>>IMHO he was a very funny comedian who didnt give a shit about what anyone
>>thought about him. He was entitled to his own opinion whether you agree
>>with it or not and entitled to say it. If you take away that right just to
>>be politically correct Im not sure where we would be. Probably with us
>>smokers outside without any fair debate. I would have thought that Jokers
>>would not condemn so quickly. Hey, but Im wrong again about jokers. Not
>>willing to live and let live, so go on flame me, but its not what I
>>thought the joke was about. I liked the guy. I may not have agreed with
>>his opinions but he had the right to have opinions that were different to
>>mine. But finally, so say its good news that anyone is dead is just sick!
>>
>>
>
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