[kj] llb variations

Tim Bucknall tim.bucknall at googlemail.com
Wed Jun 6 11:36:51 EDT 2007


the wilfull days version isn't the same as the night time version, its kind
of almost a dub version, very sparse, with no chugging guitar in the first
& second verses

6:41, but not gestalt which has more echo




On 06/06/07, Jerry Butson <jerry at fleamusic.com> wrote:

>

> Version on Night Time CD is the album version (6.48), the 12" version is

> similar in structure to the album version but is EQ'd completely

> differently. The Gestalt Mix is reportedly (5.05) but I don't have my

> vinyl handy.

>

> The version on LINBO is, I think, the 7" version clocking in at (4.23).

> The '86 remix is about (6.29)

>

> I have the opportunity to right a wrong...which is that the REAL Gestalt

> Mix could end up on the remasters...but I need to know for sure whether the

> one on Wilful is, indeed, the wrong one

>

>

> On 06/06/07, death wish <dwish2000 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> > My turntable isn't hooked up, but the Gestalt mix has that crazy little

> > bit

> > of drums during the opening? And there's a bit of guitar reverb running

> > throughout? Or is that the 86 mix on the flip of the second Adorations

> > 12"?

> >

> > The LLB on Willful Days might be the 12" mix, but what then is the

> > version

> > on the Night Time cd? The Willful Days version omits the first opening

> > guitar signature, starting instead with the keyboard line - the guitar

> > signature occurs onlly once, not twice before the drums start up. On the

> > Night Time cd the guitar signature occurs twice, as it does on the "lp

> > version" (assuming that's the same version as track 15 of Laugh!....)

> >

> > Sorry, Jerry, I probably have confused you more than you were before!

> > But it

> > seems to me that the version on the Night Time cd is the 12" version

> > (6:50)

> > and the Wilful Days version (6:45) is at the very least a slight edit of

> > it.

> >

> > Are there EIGHT versions of llb?

> >

> > Vinyl album version

> > Vinyl 7" version

> > Vinyl 12" version

> > Vinyl Gestalt version

> > Night Time cd version

> > 86 version

> > Laugh! cd version

> > Wilful Days "version"

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> > >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> > >To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

> > ><gathering at misera.net>

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] new site

> > >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:52:52 +0100

> > >

> > > >A question...the version of LLB on Wilful Days...although the sleeve

> > says

> > >it's the Gestalt Mix it's actually the

> > > >regular 12" version, right?

> > >

> > >I think so . .

> > >

> > > >Jaz is writing for JULIAN LLOYD WEBBER

> > >

> > >At least it's not Andrew . . although Crowley The Musical could be

> > quite

> > >amusing

> > >

> > >"we are the sons of Thelma

> > > we're bad but please don't tell Ma . . "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: Jerry Butson [mailto: jerry at fleamusic.com]

> > >Sent: 06 June 2007 12:51

> > >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] new site

> > >

> > >

> > >You lot are missing the big news...Jaz is writing for JULIAN LLOYD

> > WEBBER!

> > >

> > >Seriously, I met Plastic-head-honcho Steve and web designer Conor last

> > >night. They're big Joke fans have have great ideas of how to push

> > things

> > >forward.

> > >

> > >Get excited!

> > >

> > >A question...the version of LLB on Wilful Days...although the sleeve

> > says

> > >it's the Gestalt Mix it's actually the regular 12" version, right?

> > >

> > >Thanks,

> > >jerry

> > >

> > >

> > >On 05/06/07, death wish < dwish2000 at hotmail.com

> > ><mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com> > wrote:

> > >

> > >Well, I can't say I'm disappointed about the Extremities reissue, but

> > >there's still no mention of those unreleased Hosannas tracks.......

> > >

> > >Geordie solo! Well done.

> > >

> > >Roll on October.

> > >

> > >T.

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