[kj] back to oil!!!

[Mister Black]

Yes, there were weapon inspections in Iraq , no one is disputing that . Saddam barred the Weapons inspectors from inspecting certain places , the was the problem .
  You seem to be saying that because the 9/11 attackers came from Saudi and Egypt , then that must mean that these Countries are supporters of terrorism , that is incorrect . The 9/11 terrorists were not supported by their Country or Government , they were rogues, they belonged to Al Queda . Saudi and Egypt have been fighting these terrorists for a long time , the Countries themselves were not responsible for the actions of the 9/11 terrorists and therefore do not warrant any punishment.
  You also say that Iran and North Korea have WMD's and this is the reason why they weren't invaded. Your point has no merit because neither Iran or North Korea have Nuclear Weapons , so your point about Countries that have nuclear weapons wont be invaded is invalid .
  You are the one who is ignoring the facts ,  that is plain to see .
  





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Message Received: Jul 21 2007, 01:43 PM
From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [kj] back to oil!!!

There were tons of inspections done in Iraq. Every time the inspectors 
came back with nothing, they were chided by war hawks that the weapons 
were really just out there, the inspectors weren't looking hard enough. 
Of course, it turns out the inspectors actually did a damned fine job.

Bush brought up North Korea along with Iran and Iraq as the Axis Evil, 
so it's extremely relevant. None of these countries supplied 9/11 
attackers -- two US allies did: Egypt and the theocratic monarchy of 
Saudi Arabia, ruled by one despot that doesn't seem to merit an 
overthrow the way Saddam did. The point was, North Korea and Iran 
UNCONTROVERSIALLY have WMDs, but weren't invaded. Countries that have 
them aren't, because they can use them.

Remember, Iraq was also invaded because we care so much for its people. 
Except Americans hate Arabs. But they wanna liberate them, because they 
deserve freedom, like any good human being. Yep, love of Arabs is a real 
passion in US society. Folks here in Texas would die for Arab citizens 
any day! That they live over huge energy reserves is just a coincidence.

Speaking of ploys, your ploy basically seems to be "facts be damned, 
I'll think how I want." A lot of that sort of deeply entrenched 
ideological nonsense here in the US, so I'm used to it. "Fuck the facts, 
I'm thinking this way anyway."

-Oliver



Mister Black wrote:

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>

> Iraq did initially allow weapons inspectors in, but Saddam refused to 

> allow them in at the later stages for some reason , refusing to allow 

> the weapons inspectors in contravened the terms of the first gulf wars 

> cease fire agreement and left the allies with no other option but to 

> launch a second gulf war . If Saddam would have continued to allow 

> weapons inspectors in to search anywhere they choose , the second gulf 

> war would never have happened .

>

> Whatever happen in North Korea , Israel or Iran is irrelevant in 

> this discussion , please start a new thread if you wish to discus 

> these Countries , you are trying the same ploy as Greg, going on a 

> world trip of all the hotspots to dilute the discussion

>


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